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Originally posted by dj adagnitio The poverty rate cannot be clearly defined because there are many different ways of producing a number. This does not mean that one should not use it as a point in an argument. Almost any statistical measure cannot be clearly defined because their are many different ways of doing an analysis. Each different way has it's good and bads. Just because there isn't one answer doesn't mean noone should use any of them as a tool to show a point.

I clearly never debunked the use of statistics. I actually clearly said that they are still a valid thing to use in producing an argument. Im not ignoring any statistic. If for some reason we really wanted to get into this then we would get different statistics, examine the methodology of both and then debate which are more accurate. However I doubt either of us have the time or the will to do that so...

I imagine it is true that the Cuban government doesn't realease those statistics, for all I know they may not even collect them. However their are pieces out there that discuss such issues even without official statistics. I believe it is true that most of their population would fall into a quite poor class by our standards. I would also like to point out that despite that they all recieve health care and education and do a lot better then people in similar situations in other countries. They have also endured a U.S. embargo that is very damaging to them. Their is no evidence to show that if they lived under capitalism they would do any better, except that they wouldn't have to deal with the trade embargo. It's hard to actually know as a matter of fact, but I am fairly confident the average Cuban does better now then before the revolution.

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