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Originally posted by StereoPrincess Why does every political power scheme have a bad stigma to it. Like any sort of government you say is bad capitalism = bad communism = bad socialism = bad where is the good?

There is no good - but we're doing the best we can with what we have right now.

So Capitalism? I like it. Yes'um I do.

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Last edited by rabbitjoker on Dec-03-2003 at 15:39

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Originally posted by LadyLotus can you say CLONING. hahaha. ok, so now people think they are God. hahaha

Want to read an -interesting- book on social ethics? Check out "Practical Ethics" (by Peter Singer).

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yes im stubborn... im studying for one of my visual arts classes and i came across some info... that once again... makes me hate capitalism....


Marxist definitions of ideology as "false consciousness"
The governing, ruling or dominant class puts forward ideas about political and social organization that support and reinforce their own interests. They present a certain way of life as the natural or only way to live. In capitalist societies, this causes the working class to believe that it is necessary for them to participate in society as subordinate labourers and consumers.
· Terry Eagleton: set of beliefs and values and habits which makes the existing power relations of the society seem "natural" or "invisible".
· Ira Shor: "manipulated action and reflection which lead people to support their own repression".
· Richard Ohmann: "a privileged social group will generalize its own interests so that they appear to be universal social goals".
· Susan Miller: "individuals are [tied] to fantasized functions and activities, not to their actual situations".
Cited in Harkin, Particia. Ideology. available at http://tigger.uic.edu/~pharkin/pubs/ideology.html

so the rich basically abuse the poor,and/or we are all just very stupid and conform so easily and thats why im so pissed off. so if we can't beat 'em join em? hahahaha
doesnt anyone want to fight against the currant? or is it up to the people in power to stop being ill. one can only dream.

by the way, thanks rabbitjoker, but i really dont think ill have time to read for a while. do you want to tell me what the book is about?

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The problem with "fighting the current" (Unless you actually meant "currant" Sorry... couldn't resist..) the problem with fighting the current, is that it is a lot more uncomfortable than most people are willing to put up with... think about the number of things you'd have to give up!... the IDEOLOGY behind Capitalism sucks, yes, but given the alternatives, at least the ones that have been attempted, it's probably our best bet... but I think that it IS important that society as a whole become a little more aware of ethical issues.


EDIT: DOWN WITH RAISINS! END THE TYRANNY OF THE CURRANTS!!

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Originally posted by Enraptured .... but I think that it IS important that society as a whole become a little more aware of ethical issues.

thats is all that needs to be said... as far as im concerned... capitalism does not = concerned with ethical issues.
thats my point.

actually, i really did mean currant. metaphorically speaking.=o) or however you spell it smart ass

anyways, i should stop now while i still can. i know im stubborn, but i have my limits.

Toodles!

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SHHH dont tell anyone

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NO! LadyLotus don't stop! We must carry the fight to the currants! You are our leader, our figurehead! Without you our cause will wither and fall from the vine! Those damn raisins will have their way with us!

(I know what you meant... and yes, I AM a smartass...)

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Originally posted by Enraptured NO! LadyLotus don't stop! We must carry the fight to the currants! You are our leader, our figurehead! Without you our cause will wither and fall from the vine! Those damn raisins will have their way with us! (I know what you meant... and yes, I AM a smartass...)

Now your promoted to shit disturber

no one needs to follow me they need to follow whats in themselves cause unfortunately it just isnt that easy.

so LAHDEEDAH

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i know LadyLotus paints with her left hand as well!

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Originally posted by dEsidEL i know LadyLotus paints with her left hand as well!

yeah, of course. i believe in balance. not just talking about nail polish though.

teehee

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