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Originally posted by C3sharp Lol. And the people like you, with your absolute elitist attitude and sensless bashing, always suffer from having one major flaw in your arguments - YOUR OPINION IS NOT FACT. Everytime you post its just a stab or a flame with useless justification, and even if you do have good reasoning people have to fight you like hell to get it. Seriously, why did you even enter this thread? Do you like doing this? I'm fairly sure the majority of the TA community doesn't. I'm not attacking your taste, opinion, intellegence, freedom of speech etc. nor am I defendig Tiesto. It's just that when you post in this fassion it is idiotic and harmful to our already weakend community. So I figured I would ask you, respectfully, to please post in an intellegent manner, and give ligitimate reasons for your arguments so they are not just meritless flaming, or to just hold off posting in places where you are so tempted to do so. Because in my eyes, and the eyes of many others, posts like these do nothing but diminish people's respect for you.

no on this ocassion my opinion is fact. You might like tiesto, thats your opinion, but he is shit - thats a fact.

Britney spears is shit. people like her, that doesnt make her good, shes still shit.

the thing is though, saying tiesto is shit to a bunch of tiesto fans is like telling a bunch of 10 year old girls that britney spears is shit. What do they know? fuck all, which is the same for most tiesto fans. If they actually had any idea about music then theyd know he was crap, but they dont, so they dont. simple - his music is rubbish.

what are you talking about a community? I dont understand that...

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Originally posted by XaNaX If they sucked that bad, the crowds wouldn't come.

not true. shit pop acts sell out bigger capacity venues more often than any of these djs you care to argue about. It doesnt make them good either, it makes them popular.

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Originally posted by Laushinameee no on this ocassion my opinion is fact. You might like tiesto, thats your opinion, but he is shit - thats a fact. Britney spears is shit. people like her, that doesnt make her good, shes still shit.

Can you be "shit" and still be "the shit?"?

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o on this ocassion my opinion is fact. You might like tiesto, thats your opinion, but he is shit - thats a fact. Britney spears is shit. people like her, that doesnt make her good, shes still shit. the thing is though, saying tiesto is shit to a bunch of tiesto fans is like telling a bunch of 10 year old girls that britney spears is shit. What do they know? fuck all, which is the same for most tiesto fans. If they actually had any idea about music then theyd know he was crap, but they dont, so they dont. simple - his music is rubbish. what are you talking about a community? I dont understand that...

The funny thing about this is it is just your opinion still but apparently since your a fucking moron your unable to understand that. If this thread was about PvD and people were bashing him you would be defending him with all your vigor because wether you like it or not your an OMG PVD I DIE!!!@!!J1111!!!1 fan. C3Sharp made excellent points none of which you listened to because your too stuck up to even consider someone elses opinion valid.

Just for your referance heres a defination of opinion

o·pin·ion
A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof.

NO WHERE IN THERE DOES IT SAY OPINION = FACT

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Well this is how I see it. In comparison to DJ's that are IN FACT off the stratosphere compared to Tiesto, who IN FACT have more skills with the turntable than he ever will, he is a bad DJ. That's called logic.

DJ Skills = The extent to which a DJ uses the decks, and the proficiency at what he utilizes.

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This thread has made it this far? If someone likes an artist, then they like him. If they don't, then they don't. Who gives a fuck if they disagree with you?

Opinionated flame-wars = Dumb

Completely agree Idoru.

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people ask why the thread? well like I said..
why the bashing?
it was my first post..
and many of you have told me/us why the bashing..

ok fair enough..

Im new to this board. and I realize that people are really serious about their trance and their favorite artists and alot of people think one sided while others dont..
yes we all have opinions. and we all have our favorites and we all see and listen to them in different ways..

and perhaps this thread was not a good idea hahahhaha
but its a good way to understand this forums members and how people think of artists.. some dont see any talent when they hate an artist, they refuse to even notice it.. blind sided... while others are very critical in fair ways..and those are the ones who come across as real trance fans and good critics.. giving credit when credit is due, and expressing personally opinions or taste afterwards seems right to me.. still giving credit to the ones they dislike.. seems right to me..

thanks all..

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Originally posted by Nite-Mer I don't know that I qualify as a basher, because I'll admit the things he does well. However, I am a realist and he has room for a lot of improvement. I hear what you are saying about the EDM community growing, but I don't know that I'm happy about having a bunch of sheep join our scene. More unknowledgeable fans that don't know who Hernan Cattaneo or Max Graham are, but suck Tiesto, Oakie and PVD's dicks. I prefer rounded fans that can be critical without, necessarily, bashing, but being honest about a dj that lacks technical merit. Tiesto did a lot to bring me into the scene and I will always love him for that, but I have progressed and my tastes have progressed. I'm not even talking the kind of music he plays, but the way he plays it.

lol you were a sheep just like they are, some of them will remain sheeps and some of them will move on like you say you did...

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Tiesto did a lot to bring me into the scene and I will always love him for that, but I have progressed and my tastes have progressed.

+1

not everyone is perfect you know

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