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Originally posted by Q5echo example? the only time that comes to my mind Lybia 1986.

Uhhh, uhhh, ummm, hmmmm.....wait...no....damn....

Oh, oh, uhh, Iraq?

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thats the idea

If that's all the idea, and again if it's mere posturing and pressuring, well they certainly sold me. Hopefully at this stage I do hope that's all it is.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r While true, I would tend to believe that they certainly wouldn't broadcast their military movements to the MSM if they had any intent of following up on said plans either... It's a political statement if anything because militarily it certainly doesn't make sense...

Well like I said with Neo, I hope you're right.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Iraq?

wrong. you seem to forget the steps we took at the UN to try and engender a concensus for the sole purpose of military action against Iraq. prior to that was years of failed policy and limited scope military action.

none of that has happened with regard to Iran.

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Originally posted by Q5echo wrong. you seem to forget the steps we took at the UN to try and engender a concensus for the sole purpose of military action against Iraq. prior to that was years of failed policy and limited scope military action. none of that has happened with regard to Iran.

Point taken.

So I guess we should wait for Bush to "try" to get the U.N. involved in more than just the sanctions already posed (which BTW, I completely agree with those sanctions), get U.N. inspectors involved, and then kick those inspectors out just prior to dropping the first bunker-busting nuke, right?

Or perhaps that same avenue is not being travelled, which I must concede. Whichever the case, I'll scale back my initial fears and wait a bit longer for this to unfold.

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I think an invasion of Iran is now much less likely than it was prior to the invasion of Iraq. With 9/11 fresh in our minds, Bush had a large amount of blind support for the invasion of Iraq. The actual invasion militarily was a great success, however the Bush administration mishandled and miscalculated what would be required for the rebuilding period in post-Saddam Iraq. Plus the clear failures of intelligence on Iraq's WMD program have damaged the ability of the administration to use that type of evidence to justify an invasion of Iran. In the end I believe the Middle East will be better off without Saddam, the last thing that part of the world needs is another destabilizing force.

However, because of the way things have gone in Iraq, the Bush administration will need to have irrefutable proof that Iran is:

1. Attempting to produce nuclear weapons covertly

or

2. Is supplying weapons to Iraqi insurgents or directly involved in attacks against US soldiers in Iraq

Without solid proof of these actions by Iran I do not believe that Bush would domestically have the support to invade Iran. By going the UN route, if Iran refuses to play ball with UN inspectors I think most people in the US would support limited strikes against specific targets in Iran which are involved with the production of nuclear weapons or material. But the odds of an actual ground invasion taking place at this point I think are very slim.

Breaking News:
U.N. says Iran has passed deadline to suspend uranium enrichment.

there's not going to be a war, but there is going to be lots of bombs dropped

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Originally posted by Magnetonium I hardly if ever acknowledge sarcasm from a person I dont know because I ran into serious problems on an undisclosed buying website before.

Yeah probably these:

EGBU-28

I dunno if that can reach all of Iran's underground stuff, but with the bombs being as accurate as they are I would think you could basically drop them one on top of the other into the craters and eventually reach the bunkers.

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Originally posted by Dopey there's not going to be a war, but there is going to be lots of bombs dropped

lets bomb them now even tho they are at least 10 years away from getting even close to making a nuclear bomb.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer lets bomb them now even tho they are at least 10 years away from getting even close to making a nuclear bomb.

Its called a pre-emptive strike. First off nobody knows for sure how far they are from making a bomb. And I'd much rather destroy all their research and equipment when they are 10 years away rather than let them get within 1 or 2 years when it would be much easier for them to get started again.

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Originally posted by XaNaX Its called a pre-emptive strike. First off nobody knows for sure how far they are from making a bomb. And I'd much rather destroy all their research and equipment when they are 10 years away rather than let them get within 1 or 2 years when it would be much easier for them to get started again.

so you wanna destroy their research and equipments that are there to help them make nuclear reactors for energy purposes? because there are no proof anywhere whatsoever that they are making a nuclear bombs.

So please dont fall for this bullshit propagenda that Bush is trying to feed you.

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