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DiegoParra32
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Registered: Jun 2007
Location: Orlando, Florida

I agree with what Rob said in the Original Post(Skipped the other 12-13 pages of nonsense) and I would say that the only reason I like Radio Slave more is based on personal tastes and not necessarily that I think he is a better producer, although my personal taste implies so.

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PETRAN
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Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Volos, Greece

Radioslave or Deadmau5? Hmmm don't know tough call...



Radioslave's music is 99% shit, whereas Deadmau5's is 99,9% shit.



So i guess Radioslave wins, something to be proud off!

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Paradox Lost
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Registered: Aug 2007
Location: San Francisco

Okay, he's my take on the subject, and I'll largely echo what some others have already mentioned.

If Deadmau5 receives more flack than Radio Slave for doing essentially the same thing (no pun intended), I would gather it is due to him simply being an easier target than RS.

Deadmau5's repetitious techniques (especially his earlier work) is blatantly transparent, with that signature 1/8th plucking generating more "not this again" forehead smacks than RS's minimalistic looping probably creates.

Not to mention that he attained a rather rapid ascent to fame, and if you resented him in the first place for his production approach, you're probably going to resent him even more when it earns him headliner status across the globe. Although he has a pretty broad range of genre appeal, I would imagine that Deadmau5's tracks make their way into far more popular mix compilations/radio shows/live sets than do the tracks under RS's belt. His relatively mainstream presence simply makes him a more conspicuous target than some other, lesser known producer who, according to Deadmau5's critics, re-create the same track on multiple occasions.

Ultimately, I think it largely rests upon popularity, both insofar as degree and means are concerned. Who knows how many bedroom producers are re-using the same blueprint day in and day out. No one's going to be creating multiple threads concerning their overuse of the same techniques.

So if he's receiving more critical attention than RS, it isn't terribly surprising considering the circumstances, and I feel this reply responds to comparisons between Deadmau5 any other artist who is the focus of similar criticisms (albeit to a lesser degree).

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LionsLair
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Registered: Jul 2007
Location: Los Angeles

Radioslave is about 10x more original. The problem with Radioslave is the genre he creates music in, its hard to create much disparity in the tracks compared to the genre Deadmau5 creates music in. After a while if you follow any producer that makes Minimal Techno or Techno you kinda realise a formula. Radioslave simply has less room to work with. But even though he has a minimal playground to work with, he has a lot of original pieces that sound nothing like eachother.

Radioslave is by far the better producer, and is strong at sound design/engineering, mixing, "edm theory", arrangement.

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Ted Promo
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it's because his music is overall better (in my opinion)

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humilis
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Helsinki

Some of his mixes are dull, but some of them are really dope stuff and great:
E.C.G'ed (REKID Remix)
Dead Souls (Radio Slave Long Distance Kiss remix)
Darko (Radio Slave Remix)
Do For Love (Radio Slave Remix)

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Floorfiller
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quote:
Originally posted by Clovis

And saying Radio Slave is an unoriginal name for production whilst going under the forum guise "stevėsto" is fucking comedy.


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GoSpeedGo!
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Re: Radio Slave is as formulaic a producer as Deadmau5

quote:
Originally posted by RJT
I have never once heard Radio Slave try anything that I would consider remotely different from his usual routine.


Well, then try the early Radio Slave tracks, stuff released under the REKID moniker or his (and Joel Martin's) Quiet Village Project. The two have just released a new album btw.

Matt Edwards is much more than 10+ minutes long loop based techno.


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RJT
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Re: Re: Radio Slave is as formulaic a producer as Deadmau5

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Originally posted by paulandrews
Well, then try the early Radio Slave tracks, stuff released under the REKID moniker or his (and Joel Martin's) Quiet Village Project. The two have just released a new album btw.

Matt Edwards is much more than 10+ minutes long loop based techno.


To be fair, the same could be said for Deadmau5 (he's not just farty basslines) - but there's no denying the epic popularity of both have come from their "signatures" (farty house and long repetetive techno).

Matt Edwards may be more than long, loop based techno - but Radio Slave doesn't seem to be. Maybe I'm just missing a ton of his tracks that all of you are privy to and I'm not, but I can't find much from him as Radio Slave that doesn't fit that bill.


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MrJiveBoJingles
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.

Deadmau5 actually has two styles: the farty "electro house" and the 8th-note proggy-tranceish stuff.

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RJT
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quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Deadmau5 actually has two styles: the farty "electro house" and the 8th-note proggy-tranceish stuff.


He's also got a few gltichy tech house tunes as well - but no one will ever care to acknowledge it because it's much easier to marginalize and talk shit about him when he's the "farty 8th note" guy.

Deadmau5 appeals to the masses, so he'll be shit on like anyone else in a similar situation no matter what direction his career takes because he capitalized on his success and ruined any chance at credibility (w/ the "elite" crowd) he may have had by opening the floodgates and letting a torrent of shitty tunes flow from his insides.

Radio Slave has been around forever, and has found a way to satisfy both the "elite" crowd and still find some pretty massive commercial success - so as long as he walks that (very thin) line the only folks who are really going to talk shit are people like InfiniteGQ and stevesto, and it isn't as if anyone listens to them anyway.

And as for RS's previous efforts as REKIDS etc. - sure, it may be different, but did you ever really see REKID or Matt Edwards show up in every random tracklist you looked at?



Radio Slave is the comparison I made, and I stick by it. They both got big canning a signature sound but one guy hit the commercial ground running (and so everyone hates him), and the other managed to walk the tightrope between commercial success and underground l337ness with pretty solid success.

If anything, I'm guessing that's the biggest difference in people's mindsets when talking about these two.


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quote:
Originally posted by LionsLair
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