What you're all ignoring is that he didn't say "It was pretty funny at the time" or a paraphrase thereof, but rather "It was pretty funny". Perhaps its just clumsy wording, but it made it sound like the sight was inherently funny to him, irrelevant of context.

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As i said it doesn't even need to be "the situation" to be stressful. Just telling people about it.

As I said in the example I gave I couldn't tell my mate (BEST mate about the problems I had without laughing to make it seem more trivial, like I didn't care).

He's (I think) just giving us his 'easy to deal with' (for him) macho version where he didn't shit himself, didn't feel like crying, didn't want to go home.

When you're in that point and need to just cut off part off emotions, that is cut off parts of yourself, a different you emerges at that moment. 'this isn't real it's not happening'

And taking a watch as a souvenir in front of your mates to show you're still you (use this "still you" i.e. someone who robs dead people, comment as you will but I know what I mean and it's not that) and not some scared guy to show that you're 'just normal'.

In a situation that is about as far from normal as possible who can judge that? I mean can you last months and years dealing with it as reality?

If you were for example working in the ovens in Auschwitz (Oswiecim)shoveling bodies in, could you deal with that if you dealt with the reality or would you create a whole new one?

Where taking a watch reinforced the false reality you created which says that you are in a "normal" situation and should deal with it and not crack?

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Originally posted by Dervish A lot of judging going on here from people who haven't even been close to that situation. Or dealt with it afterwards.

People who make the choice to put themselves in such positions are still responsible for making ethical decisions IMO. Using an awful experience to excuse a poor decision doesn't cut it, and really sets an absurd precedent for every other situation in life.

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Originally posted by Lira My sister fell on my head when we I was 5 and I bit my tongue... I don't remember how bad it was, but it needed stitches (is this how you say it?). Obviously, I can't see the scar, but some friends of mine claim to have seen it. I used to drink milk off baby bottles until I was 9 years old, and I still drink 1 litre of milk every day I'm a vegetarian because my body doesn't seem to handle meat very well.

You had stitches in your tongue???

That is so weird... When I was about 9 I nearly took my tongue off with my teeth (hanging on literally by threads of flesh on either side *ew*) and they said that they cannot put stitches in a tongue.



They just left it to heal on its own.... I can see the scar

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Originally posted by Theresa People who make the choice to put themselves in such positions are still responsible for making ethical decisions IMO. Using an awful experience to excuse a poor decision doesn't cut it, and really sets an absurd precedent for every other situation in life.

What a lot of bullshit. Soliders are human beings in often inhuman situations. Ok they joined up in many cases to escape a world of shit at home.

They did not join up to die. The way you say it anytime a guy dies it's his own fault?

Otherwise how is developing mental issues (an involuntary situation) any different?

You're applying perfect world idealism to an imperfect world.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong a solider is a professional and should act as such. But to me taking a trophy isn't like killing unarmed people. It's like making downloading mp3s the same as murder... quite literally.

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Originally posted by idoru "Once you go black, you never go back," didn't apply in my case.

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Originally posted by Dervish What a lot of bullshit. Soliders are human beings in often inhuman situations. Ok they joined up in many cases to escape a world of shit at home. They did not join up to die. The way you say it anytime a guy dies it's his own fault? Otherwise how is developing mental issues (an involuntary situation) any different? You're applying perfect world idealism to an imperfect world.

Uhh... what? I said that people in horrible situations should not use that as an excuse to make unethical decisions. I have no idea where dying came in

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People who make the choice to put themselves in such positions are still responsible for making ethical decisions

which infers that because they decided to be there that they should deal with it like it is a normal job.

What aside from taking a watch is unethical about what happened? Taking a worthless watch? (and to me that is only marginally unethical, it wasn't a gold brick marked "for the children" was it?)

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Originally posted by Dervish You said: which infers that because they decided to be there that they should deal with it like it is a normal job. What aside from taking a watch is unethical about what happened? Taking a worthless watch? (and to me that is only marginally unethical, it wasn't a gold brick marked "for the children" was it?)

Stealing is stealing. No matter if its a child's bike or a watch or a folder with papers in it.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On OOKA-OOKA ME NACHOS ME PRESS KEYS ON COMPUTER GOOD

Lets put it this way what is the MOST stressful situation you have been in, in your entire life? The one that nearly broke you?

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Originally posted by Dervish You said: which infers that because they decided to be there that they should deal with it like it is a normal job.

You've been inferring an awful lot in this thread.

To clarify, Theresa said that just because you're in a shit situation doesn't mean ethics go out the window.

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