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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN no, its not. and painfully obvious in videos that the towers didn't fall at freefall speed.

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Remember, kids! The relationship between Matter and Gravity is absolute! A 1350 ft building does not collapse in 13 seconds if it is collapsing through the path of greatest resistance.

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Furthermore, the Conservation of Energy applies to falling bodies as well. When an object falls, it converts the potential gravitational energy (derived from its height above ground) into kinetic (speed) energy. If the object has to use some of its energy on something else, like air resistance, there will be less energy available as kinetic energy; lengthening the time it spends falling.

Let's use the example of a brick falling from the top of the tower, even just the energy required to move air out of the way is enough to slow the free fall time from 9.2 seconds to 12 seconds. The fact that the buildings were observed to fall at essentially free fall speed, means that all of the gravitational potential energy of the building was in fact converted to the kinetic energy of falling. The fall speed accounts for all of the gravitational potential energy available. There is no gravitational energy available to break steel, crush concrete, eject dust or do anything else but just fall.

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Apparently, nobody ever told b.s.e. that Newton was a Freemason Nazi. "Gravity" is a Zionist myth meant to keep us all down (sheeny cleverness, obviously).

You speak of theories and laws as though they are real. Sheeple like you just don't fucking know that the very evidence you use to supposedly "debunk" the NWO cover-ups is in fact theory imparted upon the masses by the NWO, itself! THEY'RE FUCKING LYING TO YOU HARVEY DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT EVER HAPPENS BECAUSE IT IS ALL A GOD DAMNED MYTH WE ARE ALL INTERACTING IN A COLLECTIVE SIMULATION KNOWN AS REALITY ETCETERA ETCETERA.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Apparently, nobody ever told b.s.e. that Newton was a Freemason Nazi. "Gravity" is a Zionist myth meant to keep us all down (sheeny cleverness, obviously). You speak of theories and laws as though they are real. Sheeple like you just don't fucking know that the very evidence you use to supposedly "debunk" the NWO cover-ups is in fact theory imparted upon the masses by the NWO, itself! THEY'RE FUCKING LYING TO YOU HARVEY DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT EVER HAPPENS BECAUSE IT IS ALL A GOD DAMNED MYTH WE ARE ALL INTERACTING IN A COLLECTIVE SIMULATION KNOWN AS REALITY ETCETERA ETCETERA.

I save that for the acid trips.

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So you're behind www.truthism.com?

lol

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Last edited by {b.s.e.} on Oct-22-2008 at 18:23

You feeling ok Halcyon+On+On ? If you must know, the Nazi regime persecuted Freemasons:

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/hitler.html
http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/fascism.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppression_of_Freemasonry

But Newton was influenced by Masonic ideas and motifs:

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Freemasonry, as a fraternal order of scientists and philosophers, emerged in the 17th century and represented something new--an amalgam of alchemy and science that allowed the creative genius of Isaac Newton and his contemporaries to flourish. In Isaac Newton’s Freemasonry, Alain Bauer presents the swirl of historical, sociological, and religious influences that sparked the spiritual ferment and transformation of that time. His research shows that Freemasonry represented a crossroads between science and spirituality and became the vehicle for promoting spiritual and intellectual egalitarianism. Isaac Newton was seminal in the “invention” of this new form of Freemasonry, which allowed Newton and other like-minded associates to free themselves of the church’s monopoly on the intellectual milieu of the time. This form of Freemasonry created an ideological blueprint that sought to move England beyond the civil wars generated by its religious conflicts to a society with scientific progress as its foundation and standard. The “science” of these men was rooted in the Hermetic tradition and included alchemy and even elements of magic. Yet, in contrast to the endless reinterpretations of church doctrine that fueled the conflicts ravaging England, this new society of Accepted Freemasons provided an intellectual haven and creative crucible for scientific and political progress. This book reveals the connections of Rosslyn Chapel, Henry Sinclair, and the Invisible College to Newton’s role in 17th-century Freemasonry and opens unexplored trails into the history of Freemasonry in Europe. ... About the Author(s) of Isaac Newton's Freemasonry Alain Bauer, a researcher and historian, is the current Grand Master of the Grand Orient of France. He is the author in French of Grand O and Le Grand Orient de France.

http://www.innertraditions.com/Prod...g=1-59477-172-3

http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/book_bauer.html

Happy trolling .

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by atbell Hum, the law of phisics? I was not aware that there was only one... All the laws of phisics that I know of are derived from calculus. I'm sorry your not so into math. I'd suggest starting here: http://books.google.ca/books?id=Xrn...lculus+textbook The first half is about all you should need before moving on to applications in phisics (where you will learn about all of the laws).

Hehe, they are not "derived" from calculus... mathematics, discrete mathematics, is nothing more than a tool employed to assert the soundness and validity of a theorem. Theories come from ideas and observations. Theories can be build upon discovery of mathematical relationships but they are not "derived" form 'calculus'. I'll be quite impressed if one can formulate and validate hypothesis purely using derivatives, limits and power series... hell, anyone capable of doing that should get a fucking Nobel prize lol.

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"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

All of those sources are owned by the Jews. I don't trust a bit of it.

And of course you heard (ok, read) that the Nazis persecuted the Freemasons. It's all just an elaborate way for the Jews to in fact cause confusion amongst the uninitiated! Don't you realize their insidious plots to enslave us goyim with off-set information? It's exactly what they're trying to do with this 9/11 tower business - which they did by the way - they just edit newsfootage as it is broadcasted from the networks - which they own - using cg technology years ahead of what the commercial standard is today to appear as though it is actually defying certain laws of gravity - WHICH THEY INVENTED TOO.

THEY'RE ALL AGAINST US, I WISH YOU PEOPLE WOULD JUST WAKE UP!!!

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On All of those sources are owned by the Jews. I don't trust a bit of it. And of course you heard (ok, read) that the Nazis persecuted the Freemasons. It's all just an elaborate way for the Jews to in fact cause confusion amongst the uninitiated! Don't you realize their insidious plots to enslave us goyim with off-set information? It's exactly what they're trying to do with this 9/11 tower business - which they did by the way - they just edit newsfootage as it is broadcasted from the networks - which they own - using cg technology years ahead of what the commercial standard is today to appear as though it is actually defying certain laws of gravity - WHICH THEY INVENTED TOO. THEY'RE ALL AGAINST US, I WISH YOU PEOPLE WOULD JUST WAKE UP!!!

Ok, now I don't know if you're being sarcastic or if you've really lost it.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Ok, now I don't know if you're being sarcastic or if you've really lost it.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov

Holy sarcasm Leb!

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

I'm just curious if the intellectually honest proponents of the pancake theory and Al-Qaeda conspiracy theory have any arguments other than the appeal to authority logical fallacy and juvenile ad hominen trolling tactics . You guys seem to get all bent out of shape when people don't buy your fallacy laden arguments:

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An appeal to authority or argument by authority is a type of argument in logic called a fallacy. It bases the truth value of an assertion on the authority, knowledge, expertise, or position of the person asserting it. It is also known as argument from authority, argumentum ad verecundiam (Latin: argument to respect) or ipse dixit (Latin: he himself said it). It is one method of obtaining propositional knowledge, but a fallacy in regard to logic, because the validity of a claim does not follow from the credibility of the source. The corresponding reverse case would be an ad hominem attack: to imply that the claim is false because the asserter lacks authority or is otherwise objectionable in some way.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_authority

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller