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Originally posted by skot_e Your arguement lacks one fundamental, I don't subscribe to the theory that the govt orchestrated the attack. Maybe you need to read the thread properly before you try and mock me. Your insults are not only misdirected, they are plain ignorant. Is Bunk? What does that mean - I'm not familiar with the terminology... Not sure what you want a video of but there is a link at the bottom of this post you don't seem to have watched about the attack on the Pentagon. If you have seen it I stand corrected. If you are refering to the demolition of a building and me providing a video of one that 'fell outward' then that rejects my post previously stating that in demolition things happen in stages for the reason of safety - obviously there won't be a video of this because that is not how it is done. It doesn't however indicate that it is not possible. There was however a 12 yr old girl in Canberra Australia killed 1997 when a building being demolished sent debris across the other side of the lake and hit her. She was in a crowd of spectators. here here Plenty more pages if you google it. Black market? Russian nuclear waste has gone missing before? It's not imposible, but again like I said I DONT SUBSCRIBE TO THIS! Provide some links... All these questions are entertained in the video below except maybe the air traffic contolloers in which case I believe the transponders were turned off meaning the plane was not being tracked. Have to check that tho. Again I don't subscribe to a conspiracy... I just question the damage at the pentagon from my interest in the following movie. Does not in any way mean it is the definitive end. All the evidence against my questions more like it, not my theory. I have not provided a theory. This evidence you speak of, where is it? Give some links for me to investigate. Link to movie

Road to Tyranny made a better case than that video. I can see why you could beleive it wasnt a plane...but until you can explain were the people went the theory is bunk...also even though the transponders were turned off doesnt mean its still not an air traffick controllers radar..they still see the plane just with very limited information.

So where are the people?
Are you now suggesting they were brought somewhere else and executed?
You must be if you beleive in the no plane theory.

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here you go boys..you want plane parts...you got them.







Listen...if it was a missile, a drone or whatever and Bush and his pals were behind it dont you think they would of thought people would be suspicious? And if so dont you think they would of made it look a tad more real? Like throw a wing here or there?

None of the "no Boeing" theorists have explained why the perpetrators would have risked certain exposure by a bystander capturing video of something that wasn't a Boeing 757. Video footage from nearby surveillance cameras was immediately seized by the FBI. Workers at a nearby hotel did get to see their film (prior to its impoundment) and did not report seeing anything other than a plane hitting the Pentagon. Keeping the film footage secret allows extreme speculation to flourish, which serves the interests of the plotters.

Again think about it...it really is common sense.
Its like when people discredit the men on the moon cus there are no stars in the photos...but do you really think that NASA and the giv would make up such a scheme and forget the friggen stars? come on...same with Pentagon...whether you like it or nor the Bush administration is not stupid.

And what would be the reason for Bush admin to orchestarte 9.11?

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Originally posted by tiesto14 And what would be the reason for Bush admin to orchestarte 9.11?

I'm willing to bet the same people that thought 9/11 was orchestrated think American let Pearl Harbour happen too...

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r I'm willing to bet the same people that thought 9/11 was orchestrated think American let Pearl Harbour happen too...

ALOT of people who DONT'T believe in the former DO beleive in the latter, in case you didn't know.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 HA...now he as resorted to blatant childish insults...and people he has YET to answer my question...so friggen easy. You talk about me beleiving everything i see on TV yet you send me a link of a video...video.tv same shit... So when will you answer some common sense questions from your own mind? Links dont have to be provided for common sense.

Before you pat yourself on the back, what was your "common sense" question?

If you had one question to ask what is it?

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 If you had one question to ask what is it?

When will good prevail over evil?

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Originally posted by metalgearsolid When will good prevail over evil?

At the end of time.

The question was meant for the troll.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 A few posters on here have brought up some VERY common sence questions for you conspiracy theorists like trance-x...yet not one of you brain surgeons even attmepted to answer them...seems all you do is spit up some nonsense your read from some loner quck who made a webpage cus he is probally a bi-polar freak who sits home and thinks of such utter crap to pass on to fools that beleive and uncover such OBVIOUS conspiracies that no one else seems to entertain. SO lets have some fun...see if you morons can answer one VERY VERY easy question...watch how COMMON SENSE debunks your theories. Here we go (or shall i say "Let's Roll") (QUESTION) If there was a conspiracy involved (cough bullshit cough) and Bush and his pals secretly orchestrated the biggest terror act of all time with secret explosives and hidden planes and whatever crap you retards (which you are) come up with to explain away your theories.....well why is that it was so friggen hard for Bush and his wacky clan to stash some VX nerve gas, some warheads or some other WMD in Husseins backyard in a bunker and then exclaim "AH HA WE TOLD U THERE WAS WMD"?....but no wait "THAT" would be to hard of a plan to do...bringing down 2 towers in NYC and penetrating the Pentagon is childs play compared to planting some WMD in the friggen desert hundreds of miles away from anyones sight...dumbasses...see how silly it seems already? Show me ONE just ONE video or photo of ANY planned demolition that shows the building falling outwards and not inwards. Matter fact...lets play common sense with you as well. Answer me this butter cup.... Where did the planned/controlled explosives come from? Surely the quanity was enormous and had to be taken from somewhere thaqt keeps and inventory of such things. Now surely that man (but probally dozens of people) realized all that explosive was gone...how did they keep silent all these years? How about this...who planted the explosvies? Was there reports of people walking around with all of it planting it under peoples desks? Wait i forgot they did it in the middle of the night...lol So lets make a short list of all the people who have knowledge of this huge cover up 1. George Bush 2. Rumsfield 3. Rice 4. Powell 5. The dozens of men who keep inventory of such highly dangerous explosives 6. The numerous men who set them up 7. The men who set them off Thats a small list for you...now i can see keepign the big guys silent..but no chance those little guys wouldnt jump at the chance to tell their story and make millions uncovering the biggest crime against ones own nation. COMMON SENSE. People like you really scare me and after i meet someone like yourself i feel compelled to wash my hands. YOU...yes YOU...beleive Bush and his crew had part in the 9.11 attacks but dont think it would of been childs play to plant some WMD in the desert? Do you see how flawed you are? It is not uncommon for planes to be reduced to confetti after such hard impacts...just look at the plane that went down in Pennsylvania HHHmmmm...here is one for you...you like common sense? If everyone knows how come Al Jazeera isnt blasting this all over their airwaves? Surley they would LOVE to expose the Bush administration of its crime...but they dont...why is that? are they in bed with mrs Bush? Oh..and why isnt Osama and his little crew not ranting about how Bush and Rumsfield went ape shit on its own people and blamed Osama? Surely Hussein would be pissed off about being caught in the middle..yet no words from him either... And lets not forget the beloved BBC who would shit in their pants to expose Bush. But nothing...you people have absolutley NOTHING said from anyone who is taking the rap on this shit...all you have is wack jobs making web pages and monkey dust theories. you are so pissed there is no debrie at the Pentagon arent you? And you keep talking about wings...well where are the wings from the WTC planes or the wings from the Pennsylvania plane? Why MUST the Pentagon plane have its wings intact when it hit harder surfaces then any of the others...they friggen turned to confetti so move on. forget the aircraft..what happened to the people on board? If you people buy into this whole drone plane or missile theory and the plane never hit the bulding please think for a moment. There were dozens of people on that plane...all had families that lost loves ones...are you implying that the Bush administration didnt crash that plane but used a missile or drone and then took the plane with passengers and killed them in cold blood? WOW sick. OK but what about the company that owned that plane? Arent they pissed that the gov took their plane for this? think of all the people who would have to keep silent for this to happen...common sense again. 1. The airline company (many people would notice a missing plane) 2. The air traffic controllers would see the plane didnt crash but kept flying and landed somewhere else (where CIA agents killed the people) 3. The people on the ground who saw the plane fly past the pentagon for some miles to land somewhere else. Surely people noticed a low flying 757 over Washington DC during the morning of 9.11 4. All the people at the runway they landed the plane see that is a fast short list...imagine if we REALLY thought about the people that would have to be kept silent...too many to count..and too many to keep silent...and too little common sense. Oh and Jimmy Hoffa killed JFK after getting a blow job from Jackie O.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=911 - watch & weep. ;-) This guy broke it down scientifically. What were these non-news helicopters doing around there? Notice how right after a helicopter passed from behind the buildings, another explosion goes off?

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 At the end of time. The question was meant for the troll.

Ok. Do you not like me or something? I thought we were buddies, man. Now, here is something I would like to discuss with you or anybody else. Maybe Al Qaeda does not exist.

They did but the US govt managed to destroy them a while ago during the USSR invasion of Afghanistan. The US govt saw this organisation as a good means to take away liberties from the people and eventually they would use this threat for a one world govt really controlled by the US.

Now all the suppose terrorists are all govt agents. Nobody will know the difference I mean look at the video tapes of the Training camps for Al Qaeda the tapes are very old.

I believe we have all been duped. 9/11 was nothing more than a gov plan to attack several countries for an oil pipeline and the control of oil researves.

It was also the major move by the gov to prepare for civil control on all its people.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 Bush had nothing to do with 9.11.

If your little brain is so confident about this, show me some links thats proves this point or even slightly backs your dumbass ideas up?

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Originally posted by ogvh5150 Before you pat yourself on the back, what was your "common sense" question? If you had one question to ask what is it?

It is a 3 part question and without an answer to this question no amount of evidence can suggest anything of a conspiracy.

If the Bush administration was involved in 9.11 what was the reason for it, what did they gain? Most, if not all, of the conspiracy theorists beleive it was to plant themselves in Iraq for oil or some other reason, but if that is the case why would they go through the ENORMOUS effort of pulling off 9.11 killing thousands of its own people, bringing down both World Trade Center Towers, penetrating the Pentagon all in broad daylight for the world to see only to make themselves look stupid by entering Iraq under false prentences when all they had to do was plant some VX nerve gas and some warheads in the desert to "prove: Hussein had WMD...but they didnt they planned 9.11 to get to Iraq yet didnt plant WMD which would of been childs play? makes no sense.

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