I love how fucking retarded most of the people who use drugs really are about their addictions.

Makes me laugh.

Yeah, I'm a sick bastard like that. So sue me.

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1. Utah Saints - Lost Vagueness (Oliver Lieb's Main Mix)
2. Klea - Tic Toc (Paul Van Dyk's Re-Edit)
3. Alibi - Eternity (Inner City Mix)
4. Cirque de Soleil - Pokinoi (Sasha Mix)
5. Chris & Kai vs. Levin - Gone to Heaven

I've never tried E, and I have no desire too as yet.

Hearing great tunes on a big system is enough of a buzz for me.

And some people earlier on mentioned 'false happiness'. I agree about that to some extent, I'd rather be genuinely happy because I'm having a good time, and I've got good friends and good music, than because I put some chemical made in a lab down my neck.

I'm not looking down on E users, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with using E in moderation, I'm just saying that at the moment I don't desire that. Maybe I'll change, but at the moment I'm drug free apart from the occasional alcohol and weed.

And sometimes I get down for no apparent reason, so to me a chemical hangover, with my brain lacking serotonin, seems like a pretty scary thought.



It's a personal thing really, just as long as you do it in moderation. I wouldn't recommend anyone to a do several pills every weekend, simply cos I don't trust something that fucks with your serotonin levels that much. But if you want to have a good time on a special occasion, and try to stay healthy otherwise, I'm not looking down on you for that. Each to their own, it's your life.

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Originally posted by Renegade I have done ecstacy 4 times in my life, never more than one pill in a night and never more than half a pill at a time.

Haha, my how things change...

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Originally posted by wwu.punisher I love how fucking retarded most of the people who use drugs really are about their addictions. Makes me laugh. Yeah, I'm a sick bastard like that. So sue me.

Hahaha I'm laughing too.


Now fuck off.

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good thread...interesting read.

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Originally posted by Slylee well it is all in the eye of the beholder i guess...i personally think that ppl who can appreciate music without drugs are better..but that's just me. lol well i shouldn't say BETTER...just more like we dont need mind altering substances to hear every part of the song and appreciate it for what it's worth. also it is just human nature for ppl to act condescending...it's like when u used to listen to rap and be a wigger when u were 14 and then u grew up and realized how gay it was and u see kids still doing it and ur just like "oh GAWD". heheh i guess that's the only way i can explain it

Hahaha, so high and mighty!

Does vinyl count as a drug?

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Technicaly it doesn't but I'm sure it should! I'm spending much more for vinyl and CDs than I do (and ever did) for E.

ha!

this thread is funny.

ive only rolled 5 times, it was all at the end of 2003 and my last one was on my Bday - Jan 17 of 2004, was pretty shitty cus the roll was fine, plus bud = pretty smooth not too hard over all good --

that is untill my GF of the time who was also rolling thought itd be a good idea to talk to my best friend about how she would be willing to hook up with him - while we're all laying on my bed even

bitch

anyways, that was my last escapade with MDMA

only "hard" drug ive done since then is LSD which i prefer over any other chemical substance that induces a body high - rather watch clouds form cool shapes and such than molest every furry fuzzy thing i own

done LSD a few times - 6 id say; shrooms once, much enjoyed; and bud which im slowly cutting out of the picture

good memories on MDMA but thats where they stay - memories

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Originally posted by RickyM Next thread - trance for listening to when you are halfway down the stairs in your house...

I consider MDMA a very safe and benign substance, if you take certain percautions, such as preloading on 100mg of tryptophan daily, for a couple of days before rolling, and the day after. Take vitamin C before and after the roll. Gingko bilboa herbs are really nice. Eat healthly and exercise. Moreover, it is essential to find the one tablet that works best, and the one that contains only MDMA and not MDE, MDA, DXM, ephedra, etc. In this way, many have virtually eliminated tolerance, and are able to roll several days in a row with the same dose.

Any tests in animals, which use around 20 mg per kg body weight, (whereas a standard human dose is ~120 mg) show certain amounts of neurotoxicity, but that is entirely due to the huge overdoes, which basically overworks the 5-HT neurons and releases too much dopamine. All of this can be pretty much allieviated by taking anti-oxidants such as Vitamin C. SSRI's after the roll will help, though during the roll they will only ihibit the effects of MDMA.

Many consider MDMA much safer then alchohol. If all the above percautions are taken the only things to take into consideration are overworking your heart and not drinking too much, and generally not hurting yourself, developing an eating schedule, since it kills appetite for a while.

Like many of you said, the experience depends mostly on what you make of it. Bad trips usually result from a bad state of mind coupled with bad preparations. If you've been a constant user for a while, stop for a month or two, then start again with those percautions in mind and you should be fine.

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Originally posted by Floorwhore I've been a pretty consistant xtc user for about 2 years now. I've had great times in the past on the drug, but the past few times ive used have turned out to be some of the worst experiences of my life. This is why ive decided to stop doing this mentally damaging drug. The last 3 or 4 times of using, my buzz has worn off quicker, and the come down has been far worse, resulting in me throwing up from such bad migraines. The feeling of depression and emptyness isnt too swell either. I dont regret doing E, since it is the reason i got into the electronic music scene. But i thought i'd post this to other users who have considered quitting, and maybe make people realize you can enjoy raves/parties without the chemicals.

Dude, did you do the same pill I did this weekend? The worst E trip ever. Time to take another break!

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