the author of the magic 10 000 makes it clear that it has to be careful planned training. Sitting at your computer making tracks would not be considered the latter. Most musicians have about 30 000 hours of time spent doing music by the time they are 25 but probably only 10 000 hours of careful "training"

Hrm, So according to my calculations, I have been producing for 70,000 hours.

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Originally posted by cronodevir Hrm, So according to my calculations, I have been producing for 70,000 hours.

how much of that was what most would consider conscious careful training? Hours mean nothing if you are learning bad habits. You could be producing 100 000 hours and still suck if you are learning bad habits or just dicking around.

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Originally posted by Richard Butler A recent study which took in many other studies, has shown there is one key fundamental reaon why certain people excel in any given area, from golf, to music, cooking to car racing. It is not latent talent. The study looked at high end classical music colleges and found there were often many naturaly talented students. No, what separates the top tier is one thing; 10,000 hours training. Thats a lot of training. Everyone from Mozart to the Beatles, the bloke who was the worlds most sucessfuul computer programmer (from the 1970s - he wrote most of the fundamental code that underpins most applications today), top tier racing drivers, top classical soloists, top sportsmen - golf, olyimpics, all of them had in thier time spent rutheless hours training to reach that magic 10,000 hours. The female UK cycling champion trainied 6 hours per day 360 days per year for years to get the gold at Bejing. Now thats not to say we dont get the oddd lucky person that gets a one hit wonder, but they tend not to last. I would say this most definitely applies to trance and there are millions of adjustments one can make, and it takes a lot of hours to learn which adjuestments give the right end result.

This hits the nail on the head. And of course we cannot forget that a tremendous passion for the task is also needed to get through those 10k hours without wanting to slit your throat

when i was at school, i remember all the asian pianists would practice 8 hours a day every day. I remember getting yelled at for only putting in 4. Of course they had no souls as is the fate of being asian so I suppose they had to make it up with technique.





kidding about the asian bit. I love them to death.

In regards to music I'd say that the alotted 10k hours would need to be making mistakes AND learning why they are mistakes and why not do to them. Not just jamming out on the midi keyboard or trying to find the right samples. So I'd say out of a musicians time, it would probably take about 30-40k hours of generalized producing to get the 10k hours aforementioned.

theories theories

what's the big deal just go out and do it already

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Originally posted by RichieV when i was at school, i remember all the asian pianists would practice 8 hours a day every day. I remember getting yelled at for only putting in 4. Of course they had no souls as is the fate of being asian so I suppose they had to make it up with technique. kidding about the asian bit. I love them to death.

What did you study?

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Originally posted by dj_alfi change your avatar for fucks sake.

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Originally posted by RichieV how much of that was what most would consider conscious careful training? Hours mean nothing if you are learning bad habits. You could be producing 100 000 hours and still suck if you are learning bad habits or just dicking around.

I never went to any classes for music, all it is, is study of romanticism.

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Originally posted by Beatflux What did you study?

at school i did an undergrade in piano performance and composition and then a masters in composition.

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Originally posted by cronodevir I never went to any classes for music, all it is, is study of romanticism.

I don't understand what you mean by that.