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Halcyon+On+On
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IT'S HAPPENINGGGGGggg


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enydo
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Yeah, I'm so frustrated with this already because a person's lack of knowledge on how digital systems work becomes clear pretty quickly. The laws are NOT WRITTEN to account for the internet, and information tech the way it is used in our lives today.

This is good news generally though, as the public is sorta finally realizing that everything you do digitally, everything you do across a network, anything you sign up for, everything is logged. It's all stored by someone, mainly the companies who manage and run the services you're using. Read your terms of agreement, I'm sure you're forfeiting everything you claim to have a right to over to these companies.

The debate about digital rights and digital privacy is just beginning, and that's a good thing. It's about time people even cared at all.

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Halcyon+On+On
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
As for the subject of voting, I consider it a complete and utter myth that it would make any difference to the introduction of such policies. This kind of thing will happen and continues to happen no matter which party or politician ends up in power, and there are far too many flaws on just about every level of the democratic system for good political policy to actually be consistently rewarded. The only merit voting has is to sustain the overall structure of democracy, whereby leaders must at least affect a pretext of caring for their people if they want to prolong their personal spasm of power. So don't worry about taking responsibility for anything, because you have no real influence anyway.


While I think that everything that you said is absolutely true, I still think your cynicism is undue. Though fuck knows I cannot argue with you on the basis of any history or even current facts, and can only disagree on what is fundamentally an emotional level... I just proved your point because I admit I still have some semblance of faith in a process that systematically compels people to vote contrary to their own interests. Fuck.

But the issue is indeed compounded by the election process in itself; if Americans want to see real change, they would broaden their considerations beyond what President or which 'Party' holds sway over Senate and Congress, and focus more on the informed process of electing legitimate representatives of the people, at all levels of government. Instead, we get daisy-chained investments in the puppet interests of corporations driven by shareholders rather than equanimity for its constituency and jurisprudence in spirit of a progressive national consciousness, because the creed of the Free Market has become newspeak for ritual transubstantiation of private property to private service. Highfalutin, I know! But not enough people are aware of the true scope of checks and balances, and the conglomerated instances of elected Senators and Representatives to fractionally support vestments contrary to both the expressed principles they were elected on as well as the long-term ramifications of privatization.

How to get this across to more people, or better yet, inform the electorate of such convenient, little injustices that can be so readily dismissed with a balking accusation of stigmatic ignorance? I don't know, but maybe the transition from narrow to broad-source media will drive for us a more thoroughly conscious and conscientious future... so long as we can successfully safeguard the foundations of free speech.


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Joss Weatherby
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quote:
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The worst part about this is honestly how insufferable it's made libertarians.



They were insufferable before this.

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ur so sexy whenn you talk. teach me to do words.

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quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
While I think that everything that you said is absolutely true, I still think your cynicism is undue. Though fuck knows I cannot argue with you on the basis of any history or even current facts, and can only disagree on what is fundamentally an emotional level... I just proved your point because I admit I still have some semblance of faith in a process that systematically compels people to vote contrary to their own interests. Fuck.

But the issue is indeed compounded by the election process in itself; if Americans want to see real change, they would broaden their considerations beyond what President or which 'Party' holds sway over Senate and Congress, and focus more on the informed process of electing legitimate representatives of the people, at all levels of government. Instead, we get daisy-chained investments in the puppet interests of corporations driven by shareholders rather than equanimity for its constituency and jurisprudence in spirit of a progressive national consciousness, because the creed of the Free Market has become newspeak for ritual transubstantiation of private property to private service. Highfalutin, I know! But not enough people are aware of the true scope of checks and balances, and the conglomerated instances of elected Senators and Representatives to fractionally support vestments contrary to both the expressed principles they were elected on as well as the long-term ramifications of privatization.

How to get this across to more people, or better yet, inform the electorate of such convenient, little injustices that can be so readily dismissed with a balking accusation of stigmatic ignorance? I don't know, but maybe the transition from narrow to broad-source media will drive for us a more thoroughly conscious and conscientious future... so long as we can successfully safeguard the foundations of free speech.


A lot of words for something that can be summed up in very few.

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This is just awesome!!

Downfall - NSA's Prism revealed to dear leader from Anonyops on Vimeo.


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That video, no matter how many times redone, will never be as funny as the one Meat187 made for the COR.

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Reddit is le champion of freedom, le champions!

*puts on fedora and runs into the night*

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Halcyon+On+On
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A lot of words for something that can be summed up in very few.


'Americans are ignorant because they are encouraged to be that way, whereas the Status Quo gets its way by keeping them as such' seems disingenuously vague and plodding through murky, conspiratorial waters. Nobody wants us to be dumb, it's just the easiest way for the few to profit from the many. Even the way I described this process (however redundantly) does not thoroughly encompass the ins and outs of the shadowplay incentive; because I don't know.


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Every person involved in media and politics at every level is there solely to herd the masses about in an endless game of "drain the cash".

This is the truth and you need to wake up.

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I agree 100 percent with what you're saying.

No need for all that fluff to get the point across, though.

K.I.S.S. and maybe those ignorant 'mericans might try to read and listen.

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