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Looney4Clooney
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YOu guys read about the child prostitution ring. 155 people. FBI case. I wonder if they actually use this program for things like this which they could easily do if they have access to emails. That is the fucked up part. Would have to be a certain type of thread, and you have to wonder if the program actually makes anyone any safer. I would probably not be so wary if they used it for things like this but as if they give a fuck. More people have died in car crashes from fear of airplanes because of terror than all actual local terror casualties. Wish i had the reference for that little tidbit. But does anyone actually think the USA is any safer ? how much safer.


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i sleep better knowing that the nsa sifts through my web searches, phone call logs, and my e-mails. it's like a warm blanket of tyranny.


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Originally posted by Looney4Clooney
YOu guys read about the child prostitution ring. 155 people. FBI case. I wonder if they actually use this program for things like this which they could easily do if they have access to emails. That is the fucked up part. Would have to be a certain type of thread, and you have to wonder if the program actually makes anyone any safer. I would probably not be so wary if they used it for things like this but as if they give a fuck. More people have died in car crashes from fear of airplanes because of terror than all actual local terror casualties. Wish i had the reference for that little tidbit. But does anyone actually think the USA is any safer ? how much safer.



I haven't read about this operation, but they've basically been running a similar operation yearly for like 20 years. They already have an information net in place to get those sickos. They don't need to sift through emails to do it (though I bet they do now, but its only after they've pinpointed people).

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Looney4Clooney
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i mean that would be a great pr stunt but then some person would say those search warrants only included looking for "terror" and the information couldn't be used and they aren't going to drone them. But ya, sick shit. it was 14-16 but still fucked. And of course, there were some clergy members involved.


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One moment the FBI is going after sick pedophile pimps and the other they are helping them out.

I guess all what matters are connections.


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Just to keep up with the thread..follow here

http://rt.com/usa/nsa-leak-snowden-live-updates-482/

i'm liking where this is going...

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The elder Snowden, a US Coast Guard veteran, and his attorney, Bruce Fein, said they were “disgusted” by Attorney General Eric Holder’s Friday letter to Russian officials promising that Snowden would not face execution if he were extradited to the US. According to the two, that letter reflected a mindset that Snowden is presumed guilty, and that 30 years to life imprisonment is considered a reasonable punishment.

"He sacrificed everything and gained nothing," the elder Snowden told the AP. "He's done what he's done. The consequences are unavoidable, and I don't know if I can mitigate those."


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13:57 GMT: German President Joachim Gauck expressed concern over NSA wiretapping, called for a binding international agreement to safeguard civil rights, and said that whistleblowers like Edward Snowden deserve “respect.”

“I never thought that the fear that secure communication was no longer possible could ever arise in Germany again,” Gauck said in an interview with the Passauer Neue Presse regional newspaper, adding that he now has to question the safety of talking on the phone and sending emails openly.

“We have to make sure that even our allies’ secret services respect the boundaries we find necessary here. A binding international agreement – if that was what was needed – should be created urgently to safeguard civil rights,” the president added, urging the German government to work on such agreement.

Referring to Snowden, Gauck said: “Whoever brings information to the public and acts on grounds of conscience deserves respect.”


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Thanks for reporting this. I have to ask though, why is it that you are doling out this information now after the recent congressional inquiry into NSA spying and not earlier?

We've published almost two dozen exclusive articles about NSA spying in the last 7 weeks, in multiple different countries around the world. Is that pace not fast enough?

There are thousands upon thousands of documents and they take time to read, process, vet, and report. These are very complex matters. On top of everything else that has to be done with these articles, from explaining, debating and defending them in the media to dealing with the aftermath.

People can accuse us of many things. Not publishing enough or fast enough is hardly one of them.

That House vote was about one specific topic - bulk collection of phone records - that this newest article has nothing to do with. That House vote isn't the be all and end all: it's just one small battle in what I can assure you will be a sustained and ongoing discussion/controversy.

There is a lot more to report still. Accuracy is the number one priority. That takes time.

Report


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X-Keyscore

Proof the NSA has not mastered the dark arts of PowerPoint and they suck at building GUIs

They're so secretive the designers still can't locate the files


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Edward Snowden has left Moscow airport and has entered Russia!

LET THE MISSION IMPOSSIBLE GAMES BEGIN!


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with OBOMA and KERRY the country looks pretty fucking weak.

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