you can take your economist theories and 10000 excel calcualtors (that all happen to be wrong) and shove them right up your ass. then in a few years when you get done shitting them out you will be able to wipe with benjamin franklin's chubby face because that will be the only use for that piece of clothe you call the dollar. nothing but a tool for the jews to maintain control over the world.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy This is just utterly hilarious. Thanks, I needed a good laugh. Ron Paul, right all along,

not as hilarious as "change you can believe in" ....oops!

LULZ, idiot.

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Originally posted by sean5 you can take your economist theories and 10000 excel calcualtors (that all happen to be wrong) and shove them right up your ass. then in a few years when you get done shitting them out you will be able to wipe with benjamin franklin's chubby face because that will be the only use for that piece of clothe you call the dollar. nothing but a tool for the jews to maintain control over the world.

You aren't doing yourself any favors by being a conspiracy nut sean..Your entire argument falls apart when you bring up "the jooooooooos". Anything credible you might have contribute gets flushed down the toilet once you go down the "omg its a new world order zionist conspiracy" route. Just stop it please.

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Originally posted by sean5 you can take your economist theories and 10000 excel calcualtors (that all happen to be wrong) and shove them right up your ass. then in a few years when you get done shitting them out you will be able to wipe with benjamin franklin's chubby face because that will be the only use for that piece of clothe you call the dollar. nothing but a tool for the jews to maintain control over the world.

sounds like you'v got plenty of stuff blocking your shit hole. Come back when you have something intelligent to say..

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Originally posted by sean5 sounds like it was written by somebody with ben shalom's circumsized cock in their mouth. if ron paul doesn't know what he's talking about then why does zionist media have to censor him so much? the guy has been right all along.

Ron Paul is about half right.

The media does censor him a bit, mostly because no one seems to be able to figure out how to deal with him. He says things that people aren't 'supposed' to say and that's problematic. US media coverage wants a Republica or a Democrat, no space for things that can't be easily called 'us' or 'them'.

The binary nature of American tactical thinking is one of the things on my list of 'what when wrong' for the crisis. If the population as a whole, and the leadership in particular, were better versed at considering multi-interested competition things probably would have been much different.

Oh, and the guy you should be gunning for is Ruppert Murdoc, he's one of the biggest media suppressors I've come across.

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Originally posted by sean5 you can take your economist theories and 10000 excel calcualtors (that all happen to be wrong) and shove them right up your ass. then in a few years when you get done shitting them out you will be able to wipe with benjamin franklin's chubby face because that will be the only use for that piece of clothe you call the dollar. nothing but a tool for the jews to maintain control over the world.

Although I happen to be pretty negative about the value of the dollar, especially looking forward, it sounds to me like you don't know how to do math. No one else gets this hostile about excel calculations.

Krypton's shown his methodology to have a pretty good record for predicting stock fluctuations even in this bad climate, clearly there's something that was working. Will it continue to work? Who knows.

I'm also pretty certain that the jews aren't controling the world. They, as a group, are not a group. Jews are fairly diverse in terms of beleifs, attitudes and values. From what I've seen Jews are no more or less 'powerful' then Islamists or Catholics. Religion, as it seems to play into politics and business, is mostly a benifit in that it saves time of trying to get to know what another person values and beleives. This can be extremely useful in an orginization because it eases the development of trust between participants.

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Originally posted by Capitalizt Quoted for posterity.

Ok, so if inflation is the least of our worries, or is not, what is the issue that requires the attention of the best and the brightest?

Lookin for answers from any and all here.

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Screw that, this needs to be a thread.

I've got myself to the point that I can throw down some more predictions and kind of go over what I'd expected to happen since about December.

First off, the polar bear dip that I expected didn't play out as I'd though. I expected a sharper + shorter drop late around the start of Feb. Instead there was a rather constant drop from about mid-December to early March. This isn't too surprising seeing as there have been holidays around the world for almost two months straight.

I'm also surprised at the relative strength of the US dollar. I'd expected it to at least slowly loose some value over the past four months or so.

What I think is going on right now, the source of the market optimisim in the face of a steady stream of bad news, is that things apear to have picked up because there is more economic activity than when large parts of the world were on holidays. The fact that business is getting back on line after takeing some time off is being mistaken as a recovery or at least a bottom.

I don't think it is.

For the most part I stick by my past prediction that another drop is on the horrizon. I am pushing back the time though. I think it might hit in late August or early September, with a posibility that it could happen later.

On the negative side there are lots of housing problems still to be sorted out. The banks don't seem to have finished cleaning the bad loans off the books and I don't think the bad loans have finished apearing. This spring / summer I expect to see more deliquencies pushed in to forclosure along with forclosures that had been held off until now finally getting resolved. As a bit of a lame, one example type thing, a co-worker of mine owns a house in Pensilvania. He's over 5 months delinquent on his mortgage and the bank hasn't even officially forclosed yet. All they do is send him flyers that say 'having trouble with your payments? Call this number!' He doesn't want the house, the bank doesn't want the house, it continues to sit vacant. I suspect the banks are either backlogged or trying to hold off as long as possible so they can keep thier books looking good for longer.

Then you've got the mark-to-market accounting changes. These are nothing but smoke and mirrors surfrace changes. Now it's harder to tell how healthy a company is because the value of thier assests isn't know. This means that any company that is in trouble won't show signs until it miraculously files for chapter 11. I don't know the exact extent of this problem because I've yet to read the changes but I'm certain that it is a problem.

Retail side things look grim. GDP numbers have been held down, so the papers say, because inventories are being cleared. These are inventories that had built up pre-Nov and they are clearing at near deflationary prices. I think that a number of firms will end up in a position where, come summer, they want to re-stock inventories but they are already in debt, didn't make much profit off of thier last inventory clearing because of the depressed prices, and can't get loans to re-stock because of the credit crisis. A firm in this position finds it might just be easier and more profitable to close the doors then to try and figure out how to re-stock the inventory. Especially if infletion sets in and re-stocking will be more costly then it has been in the past.

So, late summer, a number of firms (how many? I don't know, that's my big question right now) close doors because they didn't make money off of clearing thier inventory before and inflation has made it more costly to do.



Less firms, with fewer goods = a decrease in supply of goods.

A decrease in the supply of goods = an increase in prices.



Massive government debts = increased supply of money printed

increased supply of money printed = decrease in the value of money (increase in prices)



Need to find another reserve currency = decrease in demand for US$

Decrease in demand for US$ = decrease in value of US$ (increase in prices)


Inflation seems imminent, how much things will inflate is questionable.

I just bought some F... lol, hoping if GM declares BK they jump and I make some money.

Fuck Ford though.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby I just bought some F... lol, hoping if GM declares BK they jump and I make some money. Fuck Ford though.

that's a poor strategy to take advantage of a GM bankruptcy. Instead, you should either buy puts on GM or short the stock.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 that's a poor strategy to take advantage of a GM bankruptcy. Instead, you should either buy puts on GM or short the stock.

I dont have an options trading contract at the moment. I don't want to short GM either, too risky. Besides all my currency was restricted to stocks over $4 since I just put it in on Friday.