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This is the very same reason every poll shows a vast majority ruling that the official story is BS.

ill ignore the first part of your personal attach tirade, as i find it irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

lets assume for a second that the general public is considered a learned and informed body on structural mechanics, and as such we can assume that any results derrived from the polling of such a body would hold reasonably true and accurate to reality.

- who conducted these polls?
- what was their sample size / demographic make up / ethnic background?
- were the persons included in the sample randomly selected, batch selected or voluntarily polled?
- What is the systematic error in the study?

Since you cannot answer any of these questions with any real degree of confidence, statistically speaking, your data is useless, and most undoubtably biased.

now lets jump forward to reality, and look at the above analysis without the first two assuptions, those being that the general public know fuck all about structural mechanics and that the results of any polls on this topic would be garbage.

well at this point there is no point asking any questions about the origin or make up of their population subset, as the entire poll is a farce.


if i wanted to poll a random sampling of persons to find the average drug use among the citizens of a country, i would not choose all my persons from crack houses, this would bias the results, nor would i purposefully not poll people from crack houses as they still represent a small portion of the population. Internet polling is inherantly flawed in that the sites on which polls are posted are usually frequented by like minded people, for instance 911truth.org would be visited mainly by CT'ers.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

Such is the Pavlovian device: repeat mechanically your assumptions and suggestions, diminish the opportunity of communicating dissent and opposition. This is the simple formula for political conditioning of the masses. This is also the actual ideal of some of our public relation machines, who thus hope to manipulate the public into buying a special soap or voting for a special party.
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During the Second World War the Nazis showed that they too were very much aware of this conditioning power of the word. I saw their strategy at work in Holland. The radio constantly spread political suggestions and propaganda, and people were obliged to listen because the simple act of turning off one's radio was in itself suspicious. I remember one day during the occupation when I was taking a bicycle trip with some friends. We stopped off to rest at a cafe that, we later realized, was a true Nazi nest. When the radio, which had been on ever since we arrived, announced a speech by Hitler, everyone stood up in awe, and it was a must to take in the verbal conditioning by the Fuhrer. My friends and I had to stand up too, and were forced to listen to that raucous voice crackling in our ears and to summon all our resistance against that long, boring, repetitive attack on our eardrums and minds.
Joost A. M. Meerloo, M.D
The Rape of the Mind: The Psychology of Thought Control, Menticide, and Brainwashing

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FBI Again To Confirm Identity Of 9/11 Planes

In an effort to end speculation surrounding the events at the Pentagon building on September 11, 2001, a Freedom of Information Act request was made of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, seeking confirmation of the process by which recovered debris belonging to the 4 aircraft used in the 9/11 terrorist attacks was identified. This request was denied. An appeal of that decision has also been denied. Court action is pending.




According to the FBI, "the material requested is located in an investigative file which is exempt from disclosure pursuant to Title 5, United States Code, Section 552, subsection (b) (7) (A)."

This subsection reads: "could be reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings."

The FBI has publicly declared that certain civil aircraft were involved in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. It apparently was not believed by the FBI, that disclosure of that information would jeopardize any September 11th "enforcement proceedings".

I can't believe there is still people out there who believe it was caused by the US government. Wow. Just wow.

Conspiracy nuts never seem to change their minds.

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I couldn't really care fuck all if the WTC towers really came down from crashed planes or controlled demolitions. What I want to know is why did the Bush Administration see it fit to fly the entire Bin Laden family out of the US when they should have been held for questioning? Yes I am using Michael Moore's Farenheit 911 as reference to this. But I agree with Moore on this subject. The entire family should have been held for interrogation, not flown out to safety.

Wow, 61%!!!

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Originally posted by fayraree Wow, 61%!!!

thats alot of idiots

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Originally posted by fayraree Wow, 61%!!!

It shocks me to see that people still believe that bullshit. Wait, maybe it doesn't

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp thats alot of idiots

More like a lot of dickheads getting their asses handed to them with facts.

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Originally posted by Zharen I couldn't really care fuck all if the WTC towers really came down from crashed planes or controlled demolitions. What I want to know is why did the Bush Administration see it fit to fly the entire Bin Laden family out of the US when they should have been held for questioning? Yes I am using Michael Moore's Farenheit 911 as reference to this. But I agree with Moore on this subject. The entire family should have been held for interrogation, not flown out to safety.

Another absolutely correct fact, no wonder the poll is at 61%. Cannot deny the truth.

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Originally posted by culorut More like a lot of dickheads getting their asses handed to them with facts.

what facts?

if by facts you mean pointless youtube videos that offer nothing but nut bar testimony and blatantly false analysis by unqualified morons, then sure you have been handing them out like a jehova's witness recruitment drive.

but if you mean actual scientific evidence from credible sources that dont include former cold fusion physicists.... then sir i believe there is more water in the sahara than there is facts in your arguments.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?