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Originally posted by Cyrus King
I have not seen one piece of factual prrof in which Lebanon or other middle eastern country (except for afghnistan before 9/11) sponsors hezbollah or terrorism....but if you show me, i will beleive you.


look its quiet simple take the karin A ship for example the ship had a few stops at a few arab nations ,now in this ship there was above 50 TONS of weapons , missiles and shit and this weapons cost tons of money do you really think any unsponsered terror orginazation who is from a poor country can afford that kind of thing,?-no!
and its known that most arab countries are dictatorship and therefor only the people that rule the country can have acces to the oil money and therefor they are one of the only people that can sponser such expensive terror acts

http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH0l0k0
here you can see that the ship has gone through sevral arab countries and not one of them tried to stop it


and you want an example for a country that cant deliver terror? - Egypt for example can control all of its forces and becuse of that when israel has done peace with Egypt israel have done peace with all of Egypt forces and that also why israel cant do peace right now with the palastinians cuz simply they cant control all of their forces

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Originally posted by Viber
in the case of afganistan you are right but in the case of lebanon: i think lebanon can control all their forces just like syria and iran who do you think is sponsering the terror orginazations?, there"s have to be at least one arab country thats sponsering the palastinian terror and the hezballa


I'm not kidding anymore, you need to shut up right now. Lebanon has no control of Hezbollah, they are being suppourted by radical Islamic fundamentalists in Iran. This is proven fact. The Iran/Contra affair involved Hezbollah. Once again, Hezbollah is not a wing of the Lebanese Armed Forces in any way shape or form. Lebanon has no control over them. Get it right.


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Originally posted by DrummeRaver86
I'm not kidding anymore, you need to shut up right now. Lebanon has no control of Hezbollah, they are being suppourted by radical Islamic fundamentalists in Iran. This is proven fact. The Iran/Contra affair involved Hezbollah. Once again, Hezbollah is not a wing of the Lebanese Armed Forces in any way shape or form. Lebanon has no control over them. Get it right.


ok men dont get too emotional on me ive maid a mistake on this one
but i am still saying that lebanon can make a bigger effort and fight the hezballa ,if they are not fighting them in the best way it is like to cooperate with them thats all im saying

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Originally posted by Viber
ok men dont get too emotional on me ive maid a mistake on this one
but i am still saying that lebanon can make a bigger effort and fight the hezballa ,if they are not fighting them in the best way it is like to cooperate with them thats all im saying


oh my God....forget it.


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oh my God....forget it.


so you think that lebanon is doing everything they can and that they are spending resources and agressive military usage to fight the hezballa in the best possible way becuse they dont want to hurt any israeli?

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so you think that lebanon is doing everything they can and that they are spending resources and agressive military usage to fight the hezballa in the best possible way becuse they dont want to hurt any israeli?


just forget it....you have no clue what youre talking about.


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Originally posted by DrummeRaver86
just forget it....you have no clue what youre talking about.


DR86, please answer Vibers question. Do you honestly feel that Lebanon and Syria are doing everything possible to reign in Hezbollah’s terror offensive?

You're not a stupid person and I'm sure you won't answer yes to the question above; however, do you feel that it would be in the right for Israel to hit Hezbollah targets in southern Lebanon should this violence continue?

Also, I see Syria and Lebanon’s inactions to STOP Hezbollah as a sign of unwanted peace between them and the Jewish state. This will only escalate the current crisis, and Israel will be forced to mobilize more troops to the terror torn borders in the North. We only know what could happen then. Damascus is no more than 60Km from the Northerly part of Israel -- Israel is fed up with all this bullshit already and would hardly hesitate an attack on any targets that pose a threat to her existence.


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Israel wis fed up ith all this bullshit already and would hardly hesitate an attack on any targets that pose a threat to her existence.



dont go too far ,israel is more merciful and have pretty much patience to terror (compared to the US) even though they will not hesitate to kick some hezballa terror asses after they will abuse us "to support the palastinian struggle"(even though they are just making things worse_)

israel is no sucker!

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DR86, please answer Vibers question. Do you honestly feel that Lebanon and Syria are doing everything possible to reign in Hezbollah’s terror offensive?

You're not a stupid person and I'm sure you won't answer yes to the question above; however, do you feel that it would be in the right for Israel to hit Hezbollah targets in southern Lebanon should this violence continue?

Also, I see Syria and Lebanon’s inactions to STOP Hezbollah as a sign of unwanted peace between them and the Jewish state. This will only escalate the current crisis, and Israel will be forced to mobilize more troops to the terror torn borders in the North. We only know what could happen then. Damascus is no more than 60Km from the Northerly part of Israel -- Israel is fed up with all this bullshit already and would hardly hesitate an attack on any targets that pose a threat to her existence.


Mike, I don't have to answer anybody's questions. But this time I'll be nice and do it.
As you probably already know, Hezbollah has rooted itself into the Lebanese parliament. To try and "fight it" as so so inaccurately put would be impossible. That would mean having to kick Hezbollah out of the Parliament which will still take some time. The lebanese army does not have the time nor the ability to fight Hezbollah which has become one hell of a strong guerilla campaign. Believe me, I hate Hezbollah. During the Lebanese civil war, someone in my family has kidnapped, and we believe it was by Hezbollah.
Now, should the israelis mobilize? no. Instead, I believe that there should be an accordance with the Lebanese government to fight Hezbollah. Unfortunately, the parliament is being manipulated by syria, so in the near future that won't be happening.
Should the israelis bomb damascus? sure, why not? all of lebanon would love that. Mike, you don't sound threatening, go ahea and attack syria, i couldn't care less.
I don't know if you know or not, but in the earl 80's, the Israelis formed something called the SLA (South Lebanese Army). Their main purpose was to help the Israeli army keep control of radical Muslims near the border. These were, of course, nothing more but Israeli manipulated christian militias. So I ask you this...what has happened to the SLA? Why does this struggle continue, and why does Israel's ineffective bombing kill nothing but Lebanese civilians? And don't even think of giving me that shit about Israeli civilians dying, because Hezbollah isn't lebanese. If you had half a brain you'd know that. Viber and Mike, I consider this matter cloed and do not wish to talk about it any further because it makes me angry. If you would like to continue on with this subject, please keep it to PM's. and viber, try reading a history book someday, might help you out.


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Mike, I don't have to answer anybody's questions. But this time I'll be nice and do it.
As you probably already know, Hezbollah has rooted itself into the Lebanese parliament. To try and "fight it" as so so inaccurately put would be impossible. That would mean having to kick Hezbollah out of the Parliament which will still take some time. The lebanese army does not have the time nor the ability to fight Hezbollah which has become one hell of a strong guerilla campaign. Believe me, I hate Hezbollah. During the Lebanese civil war, someone in my family has kidnapped, and we believe it was by Hezbollah.
Now, should the israelis mobilize? no. Instead, I believe that there should be an accordance with the Lebanese government to fight Hezbollah. Unfortunately, the parliament is being manipulated by syria, so in the near future that won't be happening.
Should the israelis bomb damascus? sure, why not? all of lebanon would love that. Mike, you don't sound threatening, go ahea and attack syria, i couldn't care less.
I don't know if you know or not, but in the earl 80's, the Israelis formed something called the SLA (South Lebanese Army). Their main purpose was to help the Israeli army keep control of radical Muslims near the border. These were, of course, nothing more but Israeli manipulated christian militias. So I ask you this...what has happened to the SLA? Why does this struggle continue, and why does Israel's ineffective bombing kill nothing but Lebanese civilians? And don't even think of giving me that shit about Israeli civilians dying, because Hezbollah isn't lebanese. If you had half a brain you'd know that. Viber and Mike, I consider this matter cloed and do not wish to talk about it any further because it makes me angry. If you would like to continue on with this subject, please keep it to PM's. and viber, try reading a history book someday, might help you out.



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