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Orbax
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yeah, thats probably true, but fasting is an excellent tool for breaking cravings and addictions. Its strengthens you mentally, and a few days without all the shit dumping into it cant hurt. I dont think you should fast more than 1 day usually and maybe when you start falling back into addictions hit a longer one.

In the end, most of the people I suggest it to are people having serious issues with carb and sugar cravings and they tend to disappear after getting away from refined sugars and switching over to the more natural ones in fruit.

Its a diet tool, and it helps establish good patterns.

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Orbax
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Originally posted by Aiwendil
Most nutritionalists? I don't really think you know what most nutritionalists would say about my "little statement" any more than I do.


good point, you totally delegitimized my statement with that one brilliant stroke

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And you would do well to stop assuming what I have and have not done. For all you know i've been fasting for most of my life and stopped recently, or I tried fasting and it didn't work, or I felt no effects from a detox diet I tried.


so whats your point. For all you know Ive been a spy all my life trading secrets to russia.

Point is im not and I havent. Dont call someone out for making assumptions and then do nothing to shed light on to the subject. and so far, it sounds like youve never tried it because it sounds scary and it isnt eating and its starving yourself

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Aiwendil
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Originally posted by Orbax
yeah, thats probably true, but fasting is an excellent tool for breaking cravings and addictions. Its strengthens you mentally, and a few days without all the shit dumping into it cant hurt. I dont think you should fast more than 1 day usually and maybe when you start falling back into addictions hit a longer one.

In the end, most of the people I suggest it to are people having serious issues with carb and sugar cravings and they tend to disappear after getting away from refined sugars and switching over to the more natural ones in fruit.

Its a diet tool, and it helps establish good patterns.


Again, I don't see what going without all food has to do with any of this. If someone wishes to stop carb and sugar cravings, why would not eating any food at all be better than just eating less carbs and sugars? I'd think it would be even harder to fast than to simply limit your intake of what you have a craving for. Carbohydrates and sugars are not inherently bad for your body, in fact both are needed in some amount for the normal functioning of our bodies. Health problems only arise when they are completely left out or when we get too much of them.


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Orbax
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because eating itself is a habit and there tons of little habits associated with it. Stay out of the kitchen, start realizing PHYSICALLY how you eat when youre bored. Dont just make the cognitive understanding because everyone has heard it. Realize hunger is a throat and mouth sensation and what a slave you are to your hungers, make it so you can control yourself. Its like why when you are training for a 1 mile race, you run like 5 miles. If you keep running 1 you dont push any barriers and cant grow.

People need extreme shit to help them. I dont know if youve ever had the opportunity to deal with obese and overweight people, but I do it all the time because people always ask me how I got into shape.

Im going off feed back from people with fucking ADDICTIONS here who cry and throw up when they eat and keep doing it. You need to do extreme measures sometimse.

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either way you feel great when its finished


Yeah. I forsee many a hangover during the first week of uni, so I reckon a good detoxing afterwards should sort me out.


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anyone... i run XC so would fasting for 2-3 days decrease my ability to participate in physically demanding sports or should i wait till i have break from it?


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anyone... i run XC so would fasting for 2-3 days decrease my ability to participate in physically demanding sports or should i wait till i have break from it?


during fasting you want to limit activity as much as possible. XC is gonna be demanding enough even with eating tons. Good luck with that hehe.

@streakfury: haha thats actually why I started doing it. My liver actually hurt to the touch one day @@ fast really helped!

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