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Originally posted by djSlain of course there are many more alcohol related accidents out there. it's completely legal to even go to a cop and drink a beer in front of his face. Then they get under the influence and crash their car. the same thing will happen with the legalization of drugs. People will be like "it's legal, why stop?", get in a car and crash into a tree just like any other person DUI, drugged or drunk

Ur mind is warped. Seek help.
Btw, still waiting for ur answer, troll.

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Originally posted by DJ-Fuq Oh ffs.. There is some truth in the memory thing. All that is is that if ur really stoned sometimes u will forget what ur talking about when ur in the middle of a sentence. Then after about 5 seconds ull remember. This will only happen once or twice and usually only the first time u smoke after a long break. And its not a bad thing anyway, its actually a good thing, because ull be like "shit, what the fuck was i talking about there?" then ull laugh and remember it again.

come on, youve made some good responses but this was pathetic heh. Weed makes you lazy, apathetic, and forgetful, there is no argument against this. In general, it makes a person terribly unproductive, I can see a governments reason to want to get rid of it.

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Originally posted by jdjd come on, youve made some good responses but this was pathetic heh. Weed makes you lazy, apathetic, and forgetful, there is no argument against this. In general, it makes a person terribly unproductive, I can see a governments reason to want to get rid of it.

This is like talking to a brick wall. Or a brainwashed ignorant idiot.
I told u if ur just gonna troll, PISS OFF.

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Originally posted by DJ-Fuq This is like talking to a brick wall. Or a brainwashed ignorant idiot. I told u if ur just gonna troll, PISS OFF.

you have no response so you insult, the discussion is done then.

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Originally posted by jdjd you have no response so you insult, the discussion is done then.

I know when someones deliberately posting stuff they know isnt true to get a response. Or do people still actually believe all the reefer madness crap? The majority of the prohibitionists i regularly argue with dont even say things like that.

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Originally posted by DJ-Fuq I know when someones deliberately posting stuff they know isnt true to get a response. Or do people still actually believe all the reefer madness crap? The majority of the prohibitionists i regularly argue with dont even say things like that.

you and your friends must be smoking shit weed then

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Originally posted by jdjd you and your friends must be smoking shit weed then

Huh?
Imported polm (hash) from france and holland more like. Thats FAR stronger than any weed. How come ive never seen these things ur talking about happening? Could it be that they dont happen???

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Originally posted by DJ-Fuq Huh? Imported polm (hash) from france and holland more like. Thats FAR stronger than any weed. How come ive never seen these things ur talking about happening? Could it be that they dont happen???

I dunno, maybe you are smoking crack afterwards?? The stuff I explained is common knowledge, even kids know that weed does that to you...

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Originally posted by jdjd I dunno, maybe you are smoking crack afterwards?? The stuff I explained is common knowledge, even kids know that weed does that to you...

The average person hasnt got a clue about the real effects of drugs, regardless of their stance on the subject.
Its only common knowledge because of government propaganda. I can tell u now that what u said is NOT TRUE. Just because its common knowledge doesnt mean its true.
Heres some famous cannabis users.

Aaron Sorkin, creator of ''The West Wing".
Abbie Hoffman, Activist.
Al and Tipper Gore Politicians
Aleister Crowley, Author and Famous Satanist.
Alexander Dumas, Author - "The Three Musketeers"
Ali Campbell, Singer with UB40
Alice B. Toklas. Famous Cook - Wrote recipe for Hash Fudge Filmed as. 'I Love You Alice B. Toklas'
Allen Ginsberg, Poet.
Andrea Corr, musician, "The Corrs".
Anjelica Huston, Actress.
Arnold Schwarzenegger. Actor. ``I did smoke a joint and I did inhale.''
Arthur Rimbaud.
Balzac.
Beatles.
Benjamin Franklin, Many claims but little proof.
Bill "...but I didn't inhale." Clinton, Politician.
Bill Gates. Not confirmed, just very strongly hinted at in his Playboy interview.
Bill Murray Arrested for possession.
Bing Crosby. Famous crooner of "I'm dreaming of a White Christmas". Now the Film "High Society" makes sense!
Bix Beiderbecke Jazz musician.
Black Crowes, musicians
Bob Denver, Star of "Gilligan's Island".
Bob Dylan, musician.
Bob Marley, musician
Burt Reynolds, actor. He left his first wife because of her drug use. But he has been seen in Cannabis Cafes.
Bruce Lee.
Cab Calloway, Jazz musician. Claimed he only used it once.
Carl Sagan, Scientist - SiFi writer - film "Contact" More info here.
Carlos Santana musician.
Carrie Fischer, Actress
Charlie Sheen, actor.
Charles Beaudelaire, Author.
Cheech Marin, Actor, Don Johnson's sidekick in the TV detective series "Nash Bridges."
Chris Conrad, Author and expert on Cannabis Hemp
Chris Farley. Comedian.
Chrissie Hynde, musician.
Chris Rock, Actor, Comedian, Producer, Screenwriter.
Chubby Checker, Musician. Sang; "Lets Twist Again".
Cilla Black, Musician and presenter. Tried it in the '60's but didn't like it.
Claire Rayner, Agony Aunt.
Conan O'Brian TV Host
Count Basie, Jazz Ban Leader. He was on an DEA file of marajuana users.
Dame Margot Fonteyn, Prima ballerina. Also see entries for Rudolf Nureyev.
David Bailey, Photographer .
Dan Quayle . Politician.
David Hockney, Artist.
Diego Rivera Mexican Artist
Dion Fortune Welsh occultist.
Dionne Warwick, Famous singer of "Walk on by".
Dioscorides Pedanius, 1 st cent. AD. Greek physician. Wrote 'De Materia Medica', used for 1,500 years.
Dizzy Gillespie, Jazz musician He was on an DEA file of marajuana users.
Dr Francis Crick. Nobel Prize winner.
Dr Lester Grinspoon.
Dr R.D.Laing
Dr W.B. O'Shaugnessy Re-introduced cannabis to European medicine.
Drew Barrymore, actress.
Duke Ellington, Jazz Band Leader. He was on an DEA file of marajuana users.
Elliott Gould. Actor.
Eminem, musician.
Emperor Liu Chi-nu, made medical recomendation for its use.
Emperor Shen-Nung, made first known medical recommendation for its use.
Errol Flynn, Actor
Evelyn Waugh. Author.
Francis Ford Coppella, Film Director. Mentioned in "Easy Riders, Raging Bulls" by Peter Biskind
Fats Waller, musician.
Fitz Hugh Ludlow - wrote 'The Hasheesh Eater'.
Francois Rabelais. 16 th French author. Recommended it as a food not a high.
Friedrich Nietzsche, Used it as a medicine.
Gary Johnson. Governor of New Mexico - Reformer.
Gene Krupa, Jazz musician.
George Gurdjieff , Russian Mystic.
George W Bush Politician and professional hypocrite.
George Melly, Jazz musician.
George Soros, Financier and reformer.
George Washington , grew it and there is evidence that he prepared it for smoking.
And incidentally many other US presidents use to smoke Hemp.
Thomas Jefferson.
James Madison.
James Monroe.
Andrew Jackson,
Zachary Taylor.
Franklin Pierce.
Also see entries for Bill Clinton and George Bush.
Gerard de Nerval French writer
Graham Greene, Author.
Grateful Dead musicians.
Harrison Ford, Actor. This is a claim made by Bill Maher that has not been denied.
Hasan I-Sabah (Hasan-bin-Sabah) Leader of the Assassins.
Heinrich Khunrath, Medieval Alchemist. and Philosopher.
Helena Petrovna Blavatsky. Russian Theosophist.
Henri Michaux poet and painter
Howard Marks. Ex-smuggler and Raconteur.
H R H Prince Harry, Third in line to the British throne.
H R H Princess Margaret, sister to Her Majesty the Queen. Her son disputes the claim.
Howard Stern, admitted it on the radio.
Hua T'o Medical use as anaesthetic .
Hunter S. Thompson, Author
Isabel Allende, Chilean author. Mentioned in her book "Paula".
Jack Kerouac, Author
Jack Nicholson, actor.
Jackie Gleason, actor. Another whom the DEA kept on their pot files.
James Brown, musician
Janis Joplin, musician. Tried it but "... she didn't like marijuana, it gave her the jitters."
Jane Fonda, Actress.
Jennifer Aniston, actress. "I enjoy smoking cannabis and see no harm in it", Daily Mail, 11/9/01.
Jennifer Capriati, Tennis champ.
Jesse Ventura, Governor of Minnesota.
Jesus Christ. 'healed using cannabis'.
Jim Morrison, musician.
Jimmy Dorsey, Jazz musician, He was on an DEA file of marijuana users.
Jimmy Hendrix, musician
Joan of Arc, was accused of using witch herbs (another name for cannabis).
John Belushi, actor. Perhaps not a particularly good role model!
John Denver, musician. He recorded a song about it.
John F Kennedy. Politician.
John Lennon. musician.
John Le Mesurier. Actor. Tried it but said it's not for him.
John Wayne, Actor, "I tried it once but it didn't do anything to me."
Jonathan Miller, Theatre Director.
Johnny Cash, musician. Sang songs for NORML album.
Jon Snow, Channel 4 News presenter. (UK)
Julia Roberts, Actress, "I smoked dope twice," ..." It made me too sleepy..."
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, legendary Los Angeles Lakers Basketball star
Kary Mullis, Nobel Laurate, Biology. Is on NORML Board of directors.
Ken Kesey, Author of "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" (1975)
Kenneth Tynan, Playwright.
Kurt Cobain, musician.
Larry Hagman, actor, of "JR" fame.
Led Zeppelin, musicians.
Lenny Bruce, Comedian.
Lewis Carroll, Author
Lewis Wolpert, biologist.
Little Richard, musician.
Louis Armstrong, Jazz musician. The 'bust' in his own words.
Luke Perry, actor.
Louis Hebert, French Botanist
Mark Stepnoski. two-time Super Bowl champ, Dallas Cowboy.
Mick Jagger, musician
Mike Bloomberg. New York City Mayor.
Mike Tyson, Boxer.
Miles Davis, Jazz musician.
Milton Berle, Actor another one on the DEA list of smokers
Mo Mowlam, Minister recently in charge of UK drug policy.
Modigliani. Sculptor.
Montgomery Clift, actor, mentioned in his biography.
Neil Diamond, musician.
Neil Young, Musician.
Newt Gingrich Speaker of the US Senate.
Norman Mailer, Author.
Oasis, Noel Gallagher "smoking cannabis is as normal as having a cup of tea"
Ocean Colour Scene, "the hardest smoking band in music" Q Magazine. 02/02.
Oliver Stone, Film Director.
Oscar Wilde, Author. "Bosie and I have taken to hashish,"
Pablo Picasso, Artist.
Pancho Villa, Revolutionary Leader.
Peregrine Worthstone, former editor of the Sunday Telegraph.
Peter Fonda, actor. "I don't trust anybody who didn't inhale."
Peter Sellers, actor.
Peter Tosh, Poet.
Pierre Elliot Trudeau, Former Prime Minister of Canada.
Pink. Musician. Mentioned in Playboy interview (11/02).
Pink Floyd, Musicians.
P. J. O'Rouke. Author.
Pythagoras, Mathematician.
Queen Victoria.
Ram Dass, Philosopher.
Ray Charles, musician.
Richard Feynman, Nobel Prize Laureate physicist.
Richard Pryor, actor.
Robert Anton Wilson. Philosopher .
Robert Mitchum, Actor, was jailed in the 40s for possession of marijuana.
Rolling Stones, musicians.
Rosie Boycott, former Editor of the Daily Express and The Independent.
Ross Rebagliati, first ever snowboarding Gold Medallist, 1998 Winter Olympics.
Rudolf Nureyev, Ballet dancer. Also see entry for Margot Fonteyn.
Rudyard Kipling . Author.
Ryan Farrell, Australian Sprint Car champion.
Salvador Dali, Artist.
Samuel Beckett, Author.
Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Author.
Sidi-Hidi. Sacred religious figure of Morocco, believed to have brought cannabis to the Atlas.
Sinead O'Connor, musician.
Sir Paul McCartney, Musician.
Sir Mick Jagger, Musician. Of whom it was written; "Who breaks a butterfly on a wheel".
Snoop Dogg, musician.
Steve Martin , Actor.
Stephen King. Author, "Tommy Knockers".
Steve Jobs, co-creator of the Apple computer.
Steven Soderbergh, Film director.
Stephen Sondheim. Broadway composer and lyricist.
Sting / Gordon Sumners, musician.
Ted Turner, of CNN fame. This is a claim made by Bill Maher that has not been denied
Terence McKenna.
Terry Pratchett. Author of the "Diskworld" books. A bit of a cheeky claim perhaps, in that he did not object to being given a "cake".
The Who, musicians.
Thelonious Monk, Jazz musician.
Timothy Leary
Tomas Enge, Formula 3000 World Champion.
Tommy Chong. Actor with Cheech Marin in "Up in Smoke " - "Cheech & Chong".
Tommy Lee, Musician.
Tony Booth, the father-in-law of Britain's Prime Minister. Smoked it in No 10.
UB40, Band.
Victor Hugo. Author 'Les Misérables'
Walter 'Stumpy' Brennan actor.
Walter Benjamin, Philosopher.
Wesley Snipes, actor. Has been seen in Cannabis Cafes.
Whitney Houston, musician.
William Butler Yeats. Famous Irish Poet and Occultist.
William S. Burroughs, Author.
William Shakespeare. Dramatist. More here.
Willie Nelson, musician.
Woody Harrelson, Actor and reformer.
Zoroaster, Persian prophet.
Eight UK Conservative Shadow Cabinet Ministers as well as some Liberal and Labour MPs.
Most popular Musicians since the turn of the 20th century. Even the boys from S Club 7!
You will find it's use mentioned in the Bible.
And now we are told even Stone age man may have used it.
http://www.slatts.fsworld.co.uk/famous.htm
Theyre all unproductive lazy apathetic forgetful losers, yeah?

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Originally posted by DJ-Fuq The average person hasnt got a clue about the real effects of drugs, regardless of their stance on the subject. Its only common knowledge because of government propaganda. I can tell u now that what u said is NOT TRUE. Just because its common knowledge doesnt mean its true. Heres some famous cannabis users...

everybody has smoked weed before, good for them, I guarantee you that most of the ones with difficult jobs weren't regular smokers

most of them are artists,people in the entertainment industry and that doesnt mean shit because being an artist isnt a real job where you have to mentally and physically work hard

its the working class that are most affected by the side effects of weed smoking, the joe blows that sit at home and smoke weed all day not looking for a job, not some exceptional famous people who make up 0.00000000001% of the population who have smoked a joint or two before...

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Originally posted by jdjd everybody has smoked weed before, good for them, I guarantee you that most of the ones with difficult jobs weren't regular smokers most of them are artists,people in the entertainment industry and that doesnt mean shit because being an artist isnt a real job where you have to mentally and physically work hard its the working class that are most affected by the side effects of weed smoking, the joe blows that sit at home and smoke weed all day not looking for a job, not some exceptional famous people who make up 0.00000000001% of the population who have smoked a joint or two before...

Is there any point in me replying to u? No matter what i say, ur mind will just not be changed. Even if it does change, u probably wouldnt admit it anyway.
Just remember that a large percentage of the people u know and meet in life toke, without u ever knowing.