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All of us want them put to justice, just like I want Paris Hilton to die, but there's not much I can do without puttng myself and my family in serious danger. It's just the way the world works man.

danger from what? speaking your voice? the world works the way we want it to, it is not defined by one given group of people.

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Do tell, what good are you doing by pushing this theory? Let's be realistic here, nothing is ever going to come of it.

i feel better speaking up and saying something. do you like holding in things that bother you? and yes things do materialize if you make it happen, don't sit on the fence watching life go by.

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Originally posted by solgrabber the world works the way we want it to, it is not defined by one given group of people.

Dude, for a conspiracy theorist, you are incredibly naive. People with power control and define the world, not the people without. And the general masses (i.e. you and me) have almost no power at all.

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almost no power at all? you seem to be the naive one my friend. you ever see what people can really do when they want to? i think you just need some inspiration.

i remind you again governments work for us, we do not work for them.

they cannot exsist without the people backing them.

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Originally posted by solgrabber you ever see what people can really do when they want to?

Enlighten me.

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I am going to have to say the Berlin Wall is dam good example. Want to start knocking some more down?

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Originally posted by solgrabber I am going to have to say the Berlin Wall is dam good example. Want to start knocking some more down?

Umm what? It stood for 28 years. They killed hundreds of people trying to cross. Its fall had less to do with the people "doing" something than it did with the collapse of the Soviet Union and communism in general.

And Soviet Union did not collapse because it was caught in a lie, lol. It collapsed because of severe economic and technological declines. This had very little to do with people doing something. communism was overthrown because it fell apart first, it didn't fall apart because it was overthrown.

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does it really matter it took 28 years? i faintly recall a lot of people wanting the wall to come down for what it "stood" for?

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Originally posted by solgrabber does it really matter it took 28 years? i faintly recall a lot of people wanting the wall to come down for what it "stood" for?

Yea it does man. The Communist gov't was far more oppressive that the Bush one, and it took 28 years for enough support to be gathered against it.

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communism fell appart because of him

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Yea it does man. The Communist gov't was far more oppressive that the Bush one, and it took 28 years for enough support to be gathered against it.

your missing the point, 28 years or 100 years the point is something that was wrong eventually was fixed.

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Originally posted by solgrabber your missing the point, 28 years or 100 years the point is something that was wrong eventually was fixed.

So eventually this will be fixed too. I predict.. umm.. 2 years.

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why is this going on still? howmany forums does this need to be put on?

its perfectly alright to not be accepting of waht happend... and some of the evidence for other stuff does make sense but lots of it doesnt. stfu already

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