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Originally posted by Psy-T and size isn't influenced by genetics and evolution? what the fuck are you on, karim?

with certain animals its not ( i gave a good example with the pirahnas and the fish tanks). Im pretty sure this also applies to insects.

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first of all, it did manipulate them 'very much', there are more than 11,000 known species of ants

true but certain species have existed for millions of years.

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second of all, most successful creatures? i thought we are working on my proposed definitions here, and those definitions stated that any species alive at the point in time in which the evaluation is being made is a successful species.

alright i drifted off. Im merely proposing that evolution does not relate to RIGHT AND WRONG. If the pretext is wrong, you will still have wrong. and the cycle continues heading in that direction. like a fork in the road. YOU go the wrong way, your giong to continue to fork off the wrong way with the set path (the environment being analagous to that path and evolution being analagous to forking).

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and lastly, the more evoltionairy change occurs, the more likely the species it occurs on is to evolve, not die and/or diminish.

this is incorrect, the definition of evolution dictates speciation to occur. So once a species has fully evolved it can no longer reproduce with its own kind and thus is a new species. (the genetic changes have been made significant enough so the species can not interact).

So in fact evolution basically dictates RANDOM genetic changes in which an organism that is best suited for an environment will continue to reproduce in and survive in it. When the genetic change is significant, evolution ensues and causes speciation.

End result, evolution doesn not necessarily mean right, it means RANDOM changes that allow an organism to cope with its environment, when the random genetic changes are significant enough, speciation (evolution)occurs. and you have two speicis who can nolonger reproduce with eachother. The specie which is more suited for that environment will survive, while the other fails.


Now this is my standpoint.