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Originally posted by Abhay It was good, right uptil this point.^ BLAH BLAH BLAH, MONEY, BLAH BLAH COMMERCIALISM, BLAH BLAH UNDERGROUND, BLAH BLAH BLAH... Oh, buy my new album. .

for the tenth time. it's not an album you piece of donkey poo.

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Originally posted by Abhay BLAH BLAH BLAH, MONEY, BLAH BLAH COMMERCIALISM, BLAH BLAH UNDERGROUND, BLAH BLAH BLAH... Oh, buy my new album. .

bullseye! it was really more like BLAH BLAH they all make money BLAH BLAH cause they're whores BLAH BLAH i'm not! honestly! i'm john 00 flemming, so ummm... just $9.99

Like Rebel9 wrote, Unfold is a VA-album. That means it's a record that displays the stuff John think represents "good music".
The reason why he mentions it is because it speaks quite clear of what type of music he likes (maybe better than the whole message at the start of this thread). Just because he doesn't toss away the album as a free gift to everyone doesn't mean he's less serious about his point.

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Originally posted by blacknoizybox how does Sander Van Doorn relate to non-generic trance? i think he had one or two unique tracks and then joined the fucking electro+trance movement

When I speak to just about ANYONE who has been in the scene for 15+ years and they hear SvD live for the first time, one of the biggest things that just about all of them say is that the music and energy in his set reminds them of the craziness of the old days...of the early 90s.

I think that's saying something.

Most of us here weren't into the full-on scene (not saying we didn't like the music then), but people who have the experiece and the history and have the wisdom all see very similar things about SvD.

That being, he's obviously not going to cater to everyone. But seeing John say the things he says about Sander...it just goes along with most of the other people I nkow who have at least been a part of the scene for nearly as long...all have similar thoughts, so Sander must be doing something right.

Sander just played here a few weeks ago, and the intensity in the place was easily the best intensity I've experience in all of 2007. And his set when he played here in 2006 was just shockingly mindblowing to the crowd.

This isn't necessarily in response to any style or production Sander has done, it's just more of the response his tracks and live sets bring to the table.

I probably made no sense in this post. Been a long week. :-\

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Indeed the style of trance has become commercial as #$@!#$! and now I am hearing my friends who are DJs say that it isn't about playing the music you love anymore but playing the tunes that other people love.

This makes me sad.

The mob rule of the musically mundane approach for releasing/producing/djing has really turned me off in the past few years. I feel like the there is a lot of releases out there that albeit are quickly grasped by the general public, but they are nothing new musically with the style and production techniques.

Here is a quote for how I think the music scene has gone with releases:

“The practical success of an idea, irrespective of its inherent merit, is dependent on the attitude of the contemporaries. If timely it is quickly adopted; if not, it is apt to fare like a sprout lured out of the ground by warm sunshine, only to be injured and retarded in its growth by the succeeding frost.” Nikola Tesla


For example Dream Traveler, an exceptional producer by my standards, helped bring Jes Brieden into the Trance scene a long time ago. 7 years ago . . . the attitude of the times isn't about good tracks anymore, but is all about what is new. Yet how do the contemporaries of the time know what is new, when the music of the past is but an unheard musical piece?

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Originally posted by we_R_DNA I am hearing my friends who are DJs say that it isn't about playing the music you love anymore but playing the tunes that other people love.

Go slap the guy that told you that!!!! jk.But i do believe it's rather incorrect.Anyone that just drops crowd pleasing sets and not spinning what grows out of his soul would be pretty lame imo.That's an anti underground and mainstream lemming way of thinking.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 Producers need to eat, and a hit guarantees a decent meal. But John is quick to shoot down the statement. “You’ll sell just as many records in the long run by doing what you love, as you would trying to make a hit. “A hit is short-lived – you develop a big audience very quickly, but they soon move on. “But if you consistently produce quality music from the heart, you’ll develop a core network of fans who respect you and your sound.”

Sometime ago I came up with the same conclusion. The only eyebrow raiser in here is what John said about Sander van Doorn.

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Originally posted by palm there is more trance in justin timberlakes latest tracks than what u find under the genre trance.

LOL at ur pathetic attempt at dissing trance. common if u are gonna make fun of trance, come up with something less retarded

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Originally posted by isoterra to be fair lovestoned did have a random guitarry breakdown that sounded like something you'd get in trance

...which is why it got so many remixes.

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personally only been in the trance scene 10 or so months.. thou i am a VERY big fan of sander van doorn, possibly one my favourite all time

does anyone know where i can get some J00F sets.. or his Global Trance Groove Shows for easy download? i never really actually heard his sets before.. just his name here and their