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Originally posted by RaPiD____EyE_k for f sake get off the internet for a bit buddy

You're so close, just try a little harder.

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Originally posted by RaPiD____EyE_k for f sake get off the internet for a bit buddy

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Originally posted by Ted Promo I still believe the djs knew something prior to the investigation beginning. I can't honestly believe they were wholly innocent and neither of them knew that their manager was doing this (if this is what we are to believe).

I think it's unfair to say all DJs know something is going on. Marketing Managers often get their pay based off of a percentage. By boosting the DJ's status, that DJ gets more gigs/higher pay so he gets paid more himself. Plus that probably makes the DJ happy with the marketing manager and they will stay signed with him. While what the marketing manager did might have been helping the DJ get paid more in the end, for all we know the marketing manager was only looking out for himself and doing what he could to try to get paid more. People just want to find a reason to hate on DJs.

With that, CL and DJ are taking their marketing manager to court over this. Unless they plan on flat out lying to the court (and you don't want to be caught committing purgery here in the US. You could get 2-5 years easily even in just minor cases.), I think if they go through with all this through court, I'll have to believe them.

With them skyrocketing last year, must we not forget that in 2004 CL was #7, I believe, then droped some in 2005 and then went back up last year. I dunno if he had the same marketing manager all those years, but looking at last year does nothing for me to think his votes were fake in any way. Maybe there were, I dunno. Just saying you can't just look at last year and say his votes were fake. Did he have the same marketing manager last year?

Now Dan is a whole different story. Last year was blasphamy from the beginning. Maybe Dan was wondering himself how that happened, maybe he wasn't. But again, if someone wanted to cheat the system it could have been done by ANYONE.....I think how things came to boil and it was easy for them to figure out this year is that the common factor was found between the two...the marketing manager.

Dave

i feel bad for lawerence and dan since they probally didnt know that this was going on and now they are disqualified. christopher lawerence is an awesome dj, it sucks hes been removed.

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They should've known something was going on when they finished #4 and #5 last year.

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Originally posted by DaveT I think it's unfair to say all DJs know something is going on. Marketing Managers often get their pay based off of a percentage. By boosting the DJ's status, that DJ gets more gigs/higher pay so he gets paid more himself. Plus that probably makes the DJ happy with the marketing manager and they will stay signed with him. While what the marketing manager did might have been helping the DJ get paid more in the end, for all we know the marketing manager was only looking out for himself and doing what he could to try to get paid more. People just want to find a reason to hate on DJs.

Hating on DJ's??

Does he not have a label manager, booking agent??? I mean these people even if they are on 2 different sides of the ocean... work very closely together.

How do you guys pay someone for a job when you aren't 100% sure of what they are doing.

DJ's don't get paid THAT much to not give a shit.

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Originally posted by AustralianGQ i feel bad for lawerence and dan since they probally didnt know that this was going on

Keep on thinking that. If you think or whatever.

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Originally posted by DaveT I think it's unfair to say all DJs know something is going on. Marketing Managers often get their pay based off of a percentage. By boosting the DJ's status, that DJ gets more gigs/higher pay so he gets paid more himself. Plus that probably makes the DJ happy with the marketing manager and they will stay signed with him. While what the marketing manager did might have been helping the DJ get paid more in the end, for all we know the marketing manager was only looking out for himself and doing what he could to try to get paid more. People just want to find a reason to hate on DJs. With that, CL and DJ are taking their marketing manager to court over this. Unless they plan on flat out lying to the court (and you don't want to be caught committing purgery here in the US. You could get 2-5 years easily even in just minor cases.), I think if they go through with all this through court, I'll have to believe them. With them skyrocketing last year, must we not forget that in 2004 CL was #7, I believe, then droped some in 2005 and then went back up last year. I dunno if he had the same marketing manager all those years, but looking at last year does nothing for me to think his votes were fake in any way. Maybe there were, I dunno. Just saying you can't just look at last year and say his votes were fake. Did he have the same marketing manager last year? Now Dan is a whole different story. Last year was blasphamy from the beginning. Maybe Dan was wondering himself how that happened, maybe he wasn't. But again, if someone wanted to cheat the system it could have been done by ANYONE.....I think how things came to boil and it was easy for them to figure out this year is that the common factor was found between the two...the marketing manager. Dave

I fail to believe that both djs decided "you know what, I'm going to hire a manager as my overseer and have basically no idea what the manager is doing". Both of them have the same manager and that manager did shady maneuvers to help bolster his clients in a pointless poll. I can't help but imagine one of them had some iota of an inkling of what was going on. Whether they chose to do anything about it, or even acknowledge it is another issue, but it'd be naive to think otherwise.

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Originally posted by MeLLyMeL DJ's don't get paid THAT much to not give a shit.

Maybe not the Djs you know..

I'm sure a Dj, say like.. Markus Schultz probably knows everything that goes on his career cos he's at the B grade. A clear tell is his earnest attitude and the "holier than thou" statements about the polls, not to mention the aliased postings made by him and his wife bigging him up on the message boards.

But the bigger DJs can have over twenty or thirty people working for them, many of whose names they don't even know.

That's the difference.

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Originally posted by darkdoze Maybe not the Djs you know.. I'm sure a Dj, say like.. Markus Schultz probably knows everything that goes on his career cos he's at the B grade. A clear tell is his earnest attitude and the "holier than thou" statements about the polls, not to mention the aliased postings made by him and his wife bigging him up on the message boards. But the bigger DJs can have over twenty or thirty people working for them, many of whose names they don't even know. That's the difference.

So by "bigger Dj's" than Markus you mean Dj Dan and CL??

I also don't think he had a 'holier than thou' attitude for saying something that is true. That's another thread though .

I agree 100% with Ted Promo's post.


If I were to hire someone to MARKET my career... I'd want to know exactly what are the ideas they may have to help boost my career.

Why else would I pay them??

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pathetic

christopher lawerence maybe deserve a top 10 spot, but DJ Dan?? serisouly, who is this guy?

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