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Originally posted by Passskal that doesn't cater easily to the mass

alors ils font comment pour remplir le centre bell/palais des congrès? C'est l'oeuf et la poule. On veut un gros évènement, mais l'évènement pour être gros doit attirer des foules, pour attirer des foules...

c'est un cycle et on est pris avec.

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Originally posted by zeKsg But I haven't ever heard a Sven set or Richie Hawtin for example... Now think they could do a 4000 people massive in Montreal?

i think this is your problem...id rather see them in a small, packed venue then at a massive..but then again thats what im into...fuck the overground

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Originally posted by Passskal you're right underground isn't the best word to describe their sound. What I heard from them though was ''nu sound'' that doesn't cater easily to the mass. A lot of minimal techno basically.

Sasha & Digweed play minimal techno? since when?

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Originally posted by malek alors ils font comment pour remplir le centre bell/palais des congrès? C'est l'oeuf et la poule. On veut un gros évènement, mais l'évènement pour être gros doit attirer des foules, pour attirer des foules... c'est un cycle et on est pris avec.

again, it's a today vs a tomorrow mentality. You can sell less tix but make a long lasting Sasha & Digweed-like impression on patrons or sell more but leave a mostly 'fleeting' imprint.

I think we all understand the mandate of BeB.. again, it's a balancing act between keeping the underground essence alive and achieving the bottom line.. but from what many of us are saying of the lineup so far, the scale is tipping drastically the wrong way.

I'm sure we'll be repeating the same posts over the next two months, business vs underground, blah blah blah

The other hidden issue here is ticket sales.. BeB has to guarantee that they don't oversell tickets. It's not only about the ppl who don't get in but the ones who come there to dance and not play bumper cars all night. Bal would be wise to consider that aspect as well.

This BeB is going to go a long way in telling us if it's truly being run by greedy n00bs or otherwise

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal Once I took a piss in front of everybody at Stereo. Put the garbage under the mixer, and did it right there while people were dancing and screaming. people thought I was playing with the mixer but I was playing with my zizi.

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Originally posted by Enjoy a classic from the aria days: me: are you on TA? girl: uhhhh... im on speed

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Originally posted by Passskal Patius not sure I understand your comment but I didn't mean to offence. The gay community should stand up and tell beb that they actually like to hear other music than the Joe le Taxi remix from Offer Nissim. Oh...but wait a second...someone has already asked them...and the answer was a complete disaster in the ''alternator'' room with more underground, electro and minimal sound at last year's black n Blue. Anyway that's all I wanted to say on the topic...and just like every other year I''ll go to beb, in the VIP, and end up having a good time somehow, and then go to a crazy chill to hear music I actually like until late Monday night lol. Still hoping for a big name to finish off the night in the house though. Allied NAtions are you coming to BEB you?

who knows but somehow I think I'll end up there...

probably end up with you and the crew at that chill hahaha

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Originally posted by Spin Laden again, it's a today vs a tomorrow mentality. You can sell less tix but make a long lasting Sasha & Digweed-like impression on patrons or sell more but leave a mostly 'fleeting' imprint. I think we all understand the mandate of BeB.. again, it's a balancing act between keeping the underground essence alive and achieving the bottom line.. but from what many of us are saying of the lineup so far, the scale is tipping drastically the wrong way. I'm sure we'll be repeating the same posts over the next two months, business vs underground, blah blah blah The other hidden issue here is ticket sales.. BeB has to guarantee that they don't oversell tickets. It's not only about the ppl who don't get in but the ones who come there to dance and not play bumper cars all night. Bal would be wise to consider that aspect as well. This BeB is going to go a long way in telling us if it's truly being run by greedy n00bs or otherwise

Tickets will not be oversell this year, let's repeat again: there was no turnover last year, no one was leaving the party and we had to deal with a new policy with the capacity vs fire departement at the same time. Bal en Blanc will prevent this situation from happening again, that's for sure.

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Originally posted by Spin Laden again, it's a today vs a tomorrow mentality. You can sell less tix but make a long lasting Sasha & Digweed-like impression on patrons or sell more but leave a mostly 'fleeting' imprint. I think we all understand the mandate of BeB.. again, it's a balancing act between keeping the underground essence alive and achieving the bottom line.. but from what many of us are saying of the lineup so far, the scale is tipping drastically the wrong way. I'm sure we'll be repeating the same posts over the next two months, business vs underground, blah blah blah The other hidden issue here is ticket sales.. BeB has to guarantee that they don't oversell tickets. It's not only about the ppl who don't get in but the ones who come there to dance and not play bumper cars all night. Bal would be wise to consider that aspect as well. This BeB is going to go a long way in telling us if it's truly being run by greedy n00bs or otherwise

you people just consider too many stuff "commercial" or "not underground"
Im sure not even 1000 people will know who menno de jong is, or cedric gervais, and probably not 10% of the not gay guys will know who's offer nissim. (well maybe they will now since mc mario play his new track loll)

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Originally posted by viciousmarie Tickets will not be oversell this year Bal en Blanc will prevent this situation from happening again, that's for sure.

thank Marie.. this is the only part of your quote we all need to see.. the rest is open to dispute

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal Once I took a piss in front of everybody at Stereo. Put the garbage under the mixer, and did it right there while people were dancing and screaming. people thought I was playing with the mixer but I was playing with my zizi.

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Originally posted by Enjoy a classic from the aria days: me: are you on TA? girl: uhhhh... im on speed

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Originally posted by ZraW you people just consider too many stuff "commercial" or "not underground" Im sure not even 1000 people will know who menno de jong is, or cedric gervais, and probably not 10% of the not gay guys will know who's offer nissim. (well maybe they will now since mc mario play his new track loll)

+1

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Oh and by the way, by booking such djs, im sure they're getting a lot more people INTO the scene than if they'd book any other dj. You guys are gonna tell me you started listening to techno/trance/house by listening to some underground wtfbbq dj?

Personally, I started listening and getting interested to trance because of TIESTO and im sure its the same for a LOT of people.

Stop bitching.


Edit : I actually started listening to techno because of D-Devils' 6th Gate, but its really Tiesto that got me into it for real

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Originally posted by ZraW you people just consider too many stuff "commercial" or "not underground" Im sure not even 1000 people will know who menno de jong is, or cedric gervais, and probably not 10% of the not gay guys will know who's offer nissim. (well maybe they will now since mc mario play his new track loll)

All I can say is Guetta better mash the hell up his tracks as I don't want it sounding like a giant nightclub in there.

If they don't know who Offer or Gervais are, then book Calderone or Chus & Ceballos .. because at the end of the day, it's the music (and crowd control, smirk) that's gonna leave the lasting impression. Those guys will also bring in the gay dollar, I'm sure (gay dollar is important because they have deep pockets and they started and heavily supported the whole house genre in the first place, along with - as Mtlnights pointed out - black ppl).

I am not pushing for an underground massive full of djs that you can find in the "who would you like to see in 2008" thread for example. I understand the business aspect, and my posts reflect that [ad nauseaum] .. however, the choice of some of these djs is questionable, regardless of whether we or talking sales or underground appeal. Bring in the cheese, bring in the wide appealing headliners, but don't forget the djs that will leave ppl saying, "wow, that Nic Fanciulli or whatever his name is guy was really good, I'll def check him out next time."

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal Once I took a piss in front of everybody at Stereo. Put the garbage under the mixer, and did it right there while people were dancing and screaming. people thought I was playing with the mixer but I was playing with my zizi.

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Originally posted by Enjoy a classic from the aria days: me: are you on TA? girl: uhhhh... im on speed