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Spam
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Registered: Dec 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Porky
I wonder how many people in this thread have legally paid for every single mp3 on their computers?

Doesn't matter if you steal 1 song, borrow from a friend, or steal 1000+ albums, stealing is stealing.


How many of you can confess to paying every single artist for every single mp3? Does that include you Jayx1? Skipper? Chris Allen? Laura? Jamie? Are you guys saying you don't have a single pirated mp3 on your computers?


I don't think they're making that claim at all. I think they're making the accurate claim that downloading music for free is stealing (provided of course it isn't being provided by the artist or label as a promotional tool).

Even if they HAVE stolen files (and I don't know if they have or not), the difference is they aren't trying to justify their actions. They know they stole, and anyone who won't pony up and admit it is just deluding themselves.


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Old Post Jan-29-2008 23:28  Canada
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quote:
Originally posted by Porky
I wonder how many people in this thread have legally paid for every single mp3 on their computers?

Doesn't matter if you steal 1 song, borrow from a friend, or steal 1000+ albums, stealing is stealing. One can even say that livesets are a form of property. What's the difference between a few singles and a liveset with a few singles strung together... the question is, are you compensating the artist for the music that they have produced? Even if you're listening to a liveset you are still enjoying someone elses work.


How many of you can confess to paying every single artist for every single mp3? Does that include you Jayx1? Skipper? Chris Allen? Laura? Jamie? Are you guys saying you don't have a single pirated, uncompensated mp3 on your computers?


If I have tracks that are unpaid for its because they have been sent to me directly by the artist or label. Otherwise I havea stack of receipts from music purchases last year. And I have to say, im releived that music is only 99 cents to $1.99 because back in the day a 12 inch single was 9.99 domestic and 14.99 import. I am paying a fraction of what i would have for a record. If only it were that simple when i was a poor student to have such a library of music!!

Old Post Jan-29-2008 23:38  Canada
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quote:
Originally posted by Spam
I don't think they're making that claim at all. I think they're making the accurate claim that downloading music for free is stealing (provided of course it isn't being provided by the artist or label as a promotional tool).

Even if they HAVE stolen files (and I don't know if they have or not), the difference is they aren't trying to justify their actions. They know they stole, and anyone who won't pony up and admit it is just deluding themselves.


Well, instead of demonizing the rest of us, I'd like to hear if they are 100% legit (like Jayx1 admits) or if they're hypocrites.

- Skipper
- Chris Allen
- Laura
- Jamie


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couldn't agree more with that looong assed post.


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quote:
Originally posted by Spam
I don't think they're making that claim at all.


I am. I always pay for my music. Not paying for it is a major pet peeve of mine - and not to mention, cheap as hell. If someone sends me a promo and I listen and keep it, I will buy it once it's released. I buy commercially released music on itunes and my electronic DJ tunes from beatport.

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did Tenaglia help him write this???

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Jem_hadar
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Registered: Nov 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Porky
I wonder how many people in this thread have legally paid for every single mp3 on their computers?

How many of you can confess to paying every single artist for every single mp3? Does that include you Jayx1? Skipper? Chris Allen? Laura? Jamie? Are you guys saying you don't have a single pirated, uncompensated mp3 on your computers?


I haven't. It is only recently, last number of years I even gave true concious thought to the matter itself.

I haven't downloaded illegally a song in about 2-3 years I guess. But ya before that I did.

Only recently, mostly bc of this board did i even begin to give the matter much thought... of the morality of what I was doing. That, coupled w/ the ease of downloading electronic music I want now cheaply and easily via legit sites (Beatport, iTues, etc)

Im not claiming that ive never pirated music before. im just stating too many ppl think its justified, when its not. they try to justify why its 'ok' for them to do this. I never denied that it was 'wrong' to myself, or though that it was ok... i just didnt care. i just did it. upon further reflection later in my life ive decided i shoudlnt be doing it, ESPECIALLY (EVEN MORE SO) since i have such a viable legal option to get the same tracks otherwise!


if you jstu dont care, then admit that and carry on w/ your life. but dont fucking make up BS and try to make ur actions seems righteous.


quote:
Originally posted by Spam
I don't think they're making that claim at all. I think they're making the accurate claim that downloading music for free is stealing (provided of course it isn't being provided by the artist or label as a promotional tool).

Even if they HAVE stolen files (and I don't know if they have or not), the difference is they aren't trying to justify their actions. They know they stole, and anyone who won't pony up and admit it is just deluding themselves.


^^ Exactly my contention.


quote:
Originally posted by Jayx1
People can use any number of arguements to allow them to sleep better at night. But the bottom line is no matter how you justify it, YOU ARE STEALING.


Thats what ppl need to admit to themselves. Dont stop on my account -- im not trying to make you stop your stealing. I AM trying to make you just see and recognize (to yourself) the truth of the matter re: what you are in fact doing, that its not legit.


quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur

He should be bitching at his label for being greedy retards for 10 years.


Not sure why, but that line made me fucking crack up


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TheVrk
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Registered: Nov 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by Skipper
I agree with this to a certain extent, but when you're pressing a track on vinyl or having a sound engineer perfect the digital copy, there are other people involved a long the way who can make copies.

You're def right..its more than one person then...
...still makes THEM to blame more than the actual ppl downloading imo then

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quote:
Originally posted by TheVrk
You're def right..its more than one person then...
...still makes THEM to blame more than the actual ppl downloading imo then


At fault? Yes.

MORE to blame than illegal downloaders? No.

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Yarrgh!


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