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LazFX
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quote:
Originally posted by Shakka
I have no dog in this fight (And I really don't want Hillary to get the nomination so believe me I am in no rush to put down Obama here). I just think the facts are fairly clear and it may be more of a rationalization to be so dismissive. This is politics. The skeletons come out of the closet. Nobody is beyond reproach here.

I was on the fence so I researched Hillary's 35 years experience and have found some eye opening things about who she really is. She will stop at nothing to get her way, including threatening a rape victim who was raped by her hubby, defending to the endth degree a rapist who raped a 6th grader, getting directly involved in fund raising during her Senate race (ask her about Peter Paul) , lying about Bosnia, embellishing about her daughter just missing death by a slight instance on 9/11, lying about Magnequench, crying at a drop of a hat in front of the cameras before the NH primary and the lies keep going and going. She keeps harping on Wright and Ayers, but Obama is too classy to come back at her with her own skeletons. She knows how to play the politics as usual and he's trying to take the high road. We're not electing his crazy pastor, but we would be electing a snake in the grass who will strike anything in her way of what she wants. Beware Clinton supporters - she has a lot of experience we can't afford.

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LazFX
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its shit like this .....

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quote:
Clinton: I'm not listening to economists on gas tax holiday
INDIANAPOLIS, Indiana (CNN) — In the face of criticism from a slate of economists who say her gas tax holiday plan would be ineffective or even harmful, Hillary Clinton said she wasn’t taking stock of their opinions and emphasized that this was a short-term fix that would primarily benefit long-distance drivers.

“I’m not going to put my lot in with economists,” Clinton told George Stephanopolous on ABC’s ‘This Week’ after he asked her to name a single economist supporting her plan. “If we actually did it right, if we had a president who used all the tools of the presidency, we would design it in such a way that it would be implemented effectively.”

Clinton said she didn’t understand the resistance her plan is getting since its intention is to provide relief.

“On so many of these issues where costs have gone up, where people are really feeling squeezed, there just doesn’t seem to be an understanding about what people go through,” Clinton told Stephanopolous.

The debate over Clinton and McCain’s different pieces of legislation to remove the gas tax this summer reached a fever pitch this week with Barack Obama leading the charge to reject it, saying Saturday, “This is what passes for leadership in Washington - phony ideas, calculated to win elections instead of actually solving problems.”

“It’s a misnomer to say this is all that I’m doing,” Clinton defended herself, “I have a comprehensive long-term energy plan that would go right at dependence on foreign oil.”

Clinton has been arguing that it’s not only about the money saved but the message it sends. “I really believe we’ve got to start right now, demonstrating a willingness to take on these oil companies,” she argued to Stephanopolous.

- CNN Political Producer Alexander Marquardt




you know who else did their own thing????

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as long as diebold keeps counting votes, she's got a good chance of winning, i'd say.

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Shakka
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Bwahahahah!

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Chelsea Clinton speaks at a rally in support of her mother in North Carolina. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton promised wary Americans a new beginning as they stepped up their battle Monday, the eve of their next fateful date with primary voters


On a side note, what ever happened to Cindy Sheehan? Did she give up?

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Lebezniatnikov
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Did Hillary kill Eight Belles?

A conduit for evil?

Last week, Hillary Clinton told a crowd in Louisville that she was betting on Eight Belles to win, place, and show in the Kentucky Derby, and she recommended that everyone do the same.

As everyone's heard by now, Eight Belles broke both her ankles after coming in second. She was later euthanized.

Coincidence? Or does an endorsement from Hillary Clinton open the doors of hell to unleash unspeakable evil upon the recipients of her endorsement? We took a look through some of Hillary's previous quotes on the campaign trail to see how some of her other endorsements and predictions worked out:

  • "If you're looking for a nice vacation spot in early May, you won't find better weather than in Myanmar." - Hillary Clinton at a Town Hall Meeting in Pennsylvania, April 5, 2008

  • "I think you'll find that this will be a very good year for women who live in Austrian basements."
    - Hillary Clinton speaking at a fundraiser thrown by the Germanic society, January 9, 2008

  • "It was true in 'Passenger 57' and it's still true today. Always bet on black." - Hillary Clinton asked to comment on the Wesley Snipes trial minutes before Snipes was sentenced to three years in prison

  • "Let's go Patriots!" - Hillary Clinton overheard while watching the final three minutes of Superbowl XLII

  • "Will the Olympic torch be repeatedly extinguished en route to the Opening Ceremony? Nope." - Hillary Clinton, in response to a question about whether or not the Olympic Torch will be repeatedly extinguished en route to the Opening Ceremony.

  • "Juno. Honest-to-blog." - Hillary Clinton in response to a question about which film would win the Academy Award for Best Picture

  • "I recommend Annie Liebowitz- she's great." - Hillary Clinton, in response to a rather surprising request for photographer recommendations from teen star Miley Cyrus

  • "These sub-prime mortgages kick ass! Everyone buy three houses!" - Hillary Clinton, accosting strangers on a street corner


http://www.236.com/news/2008/05/05/...lles_1_6304.php


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Lebezniatnikov
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quote:
A few things:

Russert: Hillary Clinton has cancelled all her morning appearances.

Chuck Todd is the smartest political analyst on TV. And funny too: "We're [staying late] for one delegate."

Props to all the networks that resisted the urge to call Indiana early. CBS has made an ass out of itself by calling the race [for Clinton] when the numbers didn't warrant it.

Obama retook what he lost in Pennsylvania in the popular vote. That argument is now absent from the Clinton bag of tricks.

The media narrative is clear: It's over.


Indiana

91 percent reporting

--------- % ---- Delegates
Clinton - 51 ---- 31
Obama --- 49 ---- 27

Vote margin: 20,957


North Carolina (Winner: Obama)

99 percent reporting

-------- % ---- Delegates
Obama --- 56 ---- 44
Clinton - 42 ---- 35

Vote margin: 226,340

All the talk on MSNBC is about who will break it to the Clintons that it's over.


http://dailykos.com/

/thread.

/primary.


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CNN just called it for Clinton, who's up by about 20,000 votes now with most of Lake County in. Real overwhelming victory for her, coming out a whole 1, maybe 2 delegates ahead out of this deal.

Can she leave now?

BTW, why is no one really talking about the ass kicking that she received in North Carolina?


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Lebezniatnikov
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quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
CNN just called it for Clinton, who's up by about 20,000 votes now with most of Lake County in. Real overwhelming victory for her, coming out a whole 1, maybe 2 delegates ahead out of this deal.

Can she leave now?

BTW, why is no one really talking about the ass kicking that she received in North Carolina?


What channel are you watching? It's the talk of the nation.

MSNBC's question of the night for pundits was to predict when the dropout speech will be. Olbermann got his hands on a Clinton fundraising email that went out this email... that somehow neglected to actually ask for money. The campaign's broke, they under-performed by a wide margin in both NC and IN, and Obama only needs 38 more pledged delegates to receive a majority on May 20 in Oregon.


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Groundhog Boy
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quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
What channel are you watching? It's the talk of the nation.

CNN was really only talking about Indiana all night, at least when I was flipping in and out. MSNBC should go to HD as well.

They were beating up on her pretty bad, though. Donna Brazile got into it with Paul Begala and with Lanny Davis over the Michigan/Florida thing. Jeff Toobin, the legal analyst, couldn't have been more blunt with how much of a waste of time he thinks this is anymore.


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quote:
Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
CNN was really only talking about Indiana all night, at least when I was flipping in and out. MSNBC should go to HD as well.

They were beating up on her pretty bad, though. Donna Brazile got into it with Paul Begala and with Lanny Davis over the Michigan/Florida thing. Jeff Toobin, the legal analyst, couldn't have been more blunt with how much of a waste of time he thinks this is anymore.


Ugh, the analysts themselves are the problem. Toobin and Brazile are alright, but Lanny Davis is a known idiot and Paul Begala is a known Clinton supporter.

And Jer - you're forgetting the delegates won by John Edwards.


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Lol. I still find it humorous that she had the audacity to suggest that Obama might consider being her running mate. Just leave already. Nobody likes you. Queue the latest FAIL pic.

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Groundhog Boy
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quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Ugh, the analysts themselves are the problem. Toobin and Brazile are alright, but Lanny Davis is a known idiot and Paul Begala is a known Clinton supporter.

And Jer - you're forgetting the delegates won by John Edwards.

Oh, I agree with you on Lanny Davis. He was in top form last night, probably because he realizes that he's going on vacation soon.

CNN has a few analysts who really make my blood boil. To be honest, none of the networks really impress me, though the papers and magazines have been getting worse than them lately. They're all too worried about looking balanced and as a result, find a bunch of people who are biased from all sides. It ends up looking like a fight between all different species of predators (think lions, cobras, eagles, etc. all in one cage).

Anyhow, the TV was on MSNBC from last night's coverage and when I turned it on, I just heard Scarborough say that it's being reported that Hillary lent her campaign $6.4 million last month. Usually she's been earning that money back after wins like in PA, but it's not happening this time around. I hope that she sits down afterwards and realizes what a waste of money that was, but instead, she'll probably just drag this out long enough to squeeze it out of supporters.


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Here's American Gladiators, here is 56 channels of it,
Watch these picturary retards bang their fuckin' skulls together and congratulate you on living in the land of freedom,
Here you go America you are free to do as we tell you
We want your soul
Your cash, your house, your phone, your cash, your house, your life" -Adam Freeland - We Want Your Soul

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