So drugs aids one in getting AIDs?

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You cant get aids if you pull out before you jizz.... right? .... RIGHT??!!?


I think i am right.

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Originally posted by nchs09 You cant get aids if you pull out before you jizz.... right? .... RIGHT??!!? I think i am right.

no, because you've still exchanged body fluids.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel Aside from any surgical procedure or blood transfusion, there are only 2 ways that a guy is likely to get HIV, and that is gay sex or iv drug use. Neither have anything to do with blow.

ummm, a lot of people in the gay community have unsafe sex when they are high on coke or meth. it's part of the reason the disease continues to spread there.

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Originally posted by Krypton no, because you've still exchanged body fluids.

No, i think you are wrong. Also if you have your eyes closed, you probably wont get aids.

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Originally posted by thunderdownundr ummm, a lot of people in the gay community have unsafe sex when they are high on coke or meth. it's part of the reason the disease continues to spread there.

Fucking gays and their drug and sex rampages.



If i was high on coke or meth would prob not put a condom on when presented with the chance of fucking a girl.

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Originally posted by thunderdownundr ummm, a lot of people in the gay community have unsafe sex when they are high on coke or meth. it's part of the reason the disease continues to spread there.

I would disagree, but I have nothing to back that up. And I don't think you do either.

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel I would disagree, but I have nothing to back that up. And I don't think you do either.

Isn't there a campaign in the US telling gay people to stop using drugs and having sex recklessly? I do have some stuff to back it up, but it's in Portuguese and in print.

As I recall it, because cocaine makes you feel empowered, people think they're immune to diseases, such as AIDS. So the government is trying to tackle this problem by telling gay people to lay off the crack, so to speak, and get into each other's cracks with caution

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Originally posted by Lira Isn't there a campaign in the US telling gay people to stop using drugs and having sex recklessly? I do have some stuff to back it up, but it's in Portuguese and in print.

Sounds like a lie.

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Originally posted by nchs09 Sounds like a lie.

Oh, well, the burden of proof is on me. I'll try to find the magazine that mentioned this campaign... I wonder whether it is.

Edit: Found something relevant, in English, and on-line...

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Meth and the Gay Community According to the Drug Abuse Warning Network survey conducted by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, methamphetamine-related emergency room visits between 1991 and 1994 increased by 258 percent, from 4,900 to 17,400. Meth-related deaths in several cities nearly tripled, from 151 to 433. Most of these deaths were in combination with at least one other drug, most often alcohol. (30 percent), heroin (23 percent), or cocaine (21 percent). Three cities- Los Angeles (134), San Diego (115), and Phoenix (76) accounted for 325 of the reported fatalities, and meth use remains most prevalent in the west. But the survey also documents an eastward movement. Atlanta, Minneapolis Paul, St Louis, and Washington DC, all had more then a 50 percent increase in emergency room cases. In New York city the increase was 31.3 percent, while Denver cases jumped by 160 percent. Meth, or 'speed,' is swallowed in pill form, snorted as powder, or smoked ('ice,' 'crystal,' 'glass'), and is increasingly the drug-of-choice for all injecting drug users. The government reports growing popularity at raves (all night dance parties). In the Rocky Mountain Region, public health officials note that Meth is making a comeback among white, middle-class residents, with women's use on the rise, and the average user's age as 30.5 years. For lesbians/gays/bisexuals there's more to the story. In the West, some lesbian/gay substance abuse program staff call methamphetamine the gay man's second drug of choice, and see it gaining popularity with lesbians. In his 1995 National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) monograph article, Michael Gorman, Ph.D., of the Alcohol and Drug Abuse Institute at the University of Washington, cited a report from San Francisco's Operation Concern that 'speed' has replaced alcohol as the most common drug mentioned by treatment-seeking gay/bisexual men. And NIDA's Three Community Study of Methamphetamine Use (Morgan 1993,1994) found that injection is the primary mode for over half of gay/bisexual respondents, compared to 33 percent in the overall sample. Jay Paul, Ph.D., and Ron Stall, Ph.D., at the University of California, San Francisco, Center for AIDS Prevention Studies, assessed the effectiveness of San Francisco's lesbian/gay substance abuse treatment program, 18th Street Services, and found that among male clients who had injected meth, 65 percent were HIV-positive upon entering the program. Much of meth's attraction to gays is its initial aphrodisiac effects. Gay men in both abstinence-model and harm-reduction programs who have injected the drug describe almost non-stop sex marathons lasting from 12-16 hours to as long as 3 to 4 days. But those seeking help to break free of meth also confirm that continued frequent use reverses the sexual effect physically, although the obsessive desire for sex remains. What is certain to increase even more than the meth user's sexual appetites is the risk and the opportunity for viral transmission. The powerful 'speed'-induced urge for sex frequently involves multiple partners, together or serially, often paid sex workers. (Besides the practice of addicts offering sex for drugs or money to buy them, some sex workers are said to push meth, since the drug creates a demand for their services.) Even more alarming: past users echo a 1993 report that gay methamphetamine users had difficulty recognizing risks of HIV from using drugs and having unprotected sex. Last year, Dr. Gorman began alerting lesbian/gay activist and substance abuse agencies to the shocking results of his review of July 1994 Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) AIDS figures. That 59 percent of the cumulative AIDS caseload (then nearing 400,000) were men who had sex with other men (MSMs) wasn't news. But the discovery that about 11 percent of these men had a history of injected drug use struck Gorman as crucial information that he had never heard discussed. He went on to analyze the CDC total of IDU-AIDS cases and found that 20 percent were MSM's. Among male-only IDU-AIDS cases, MSM's accounted for 26 percent, just over one-fourth. Last October, CDC, NIDA, and NIAAA, held a 2-day "Drug Use, Men Who Have Sex With Men, and HIV Infection" meeting. Other researchers confirmed and underscored Gormans concerns. Richard J. Wolitski, a visiting researcher at CDC reported a comparison study of HIV risks of nearly 1,800 MSM and non-MSM injecting drug users in Dallas, Denver and Long Beach. Among the MSM's who had male only anal sex with someone other then their main partners, 96 percent reported having sex within the last 30 days; only one-third used condoms on the last such occasion. Apart from its role in unsafe sex, methamphetamine use can have other adverse effects. Some, such as hyperthermia, convulsions, and cardiovascular problems may lead to death. The drug can also cause irreversal damage to the blood vessels in the brain, resulting in strokes. All this terrible news has some health professionals calling for a national meth campaign. Others are reluctant to call wider attention to a problem still confined to relatively small groups of fast-lane users. As one health professional said, "With the best intentions, the media and those of us trying to prevent drug abuse, may have helped promote new substance abuse trends to audiences who might not have been attracted to them without the attention we generated". Meanwhile, workers in substance abuse services, lesbian/gay organizations and HIV/AIDS agencies are urged to be aware of the growing meth problem. Too many young lesbians/gays/bisexuals organizations don't understand the link between substance abuse and HIV/AIDS. They must learn that sex under the influence increases their risk of rape and sexual assault, unsafe sex and possibly the transmission of STD's, including HIV/AIDS, and negative impact of these drugs on the immune system. For bisexuals/heterosexuals, unwanted pregnancy is also a danger and continuing substance abuse can harm an unborn child. Everyone must avoid-needle sharing of any drug likely to interfere with their commitment to their own health or the health and safety of others.

http://www.stopdrugs.org/gaycommunity.html

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Originally posted by Lira Oh, well, the burden of proof is on me. I'll try to find the magazine that mentioned this campaign... I wonder whether it is.

I was joking, i dont want to see a magazine filled with stories about gay sex and drug use.


but you enjoy your bathroom reader.



:P jk

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel I would disagree, but I have nothing to back that up. And I don't think you do either.

there's a ton of articles out there about this.


http://www.aidsmap.com/en/news/62AA...C7E8042E6B4.asp

Gay men who use methamphetamine have greater risk of HIV seroconversion
Michael Carter, Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Use of methamphetamine (often called crystal meth) by gay men is associated with unprotected sex and HIV seroconversion, according to two recently published American studies.

Investigators from the Multicenter AIDS Cohort Study (MACS) found that gay men who used methamphetamine and poppers during sex, and who had unprotected sex with five or more partners had an extremely high risk of contracting HIV. Their findings are published in the May 1st edition of the Journal of Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndromes.

A smaller study involving gay men in California, published in the June edition of Sexually Transmitted Diseases, also found a clear association between the use of methamphetamine and an increased risk of infection with HIV. The Californian investigators also found that methamphetamine use often occurred alongside the use of other illicit substances, reflecting the findings of UK research that the small number of British gay men who used methamphetamine were poly-drug users.

Use of methamphetamine has been popular with gay men in the US for many years. It has a powerful stimulating effect on the central nervous system and many individuals report that it enhances sexual enjoyment. Previous studies have suggested that gay men who use methamphetamine are more likely to have unprotected anal sex.

Few studies, however, have examined the link between use of methamphetamine and the risk of acquiring HIV infection. A better understanding of the relationship between drug use and HIV infection risk could, investigators believe, lead to the development of improved HIV prevention strategies.

Use of poppers can also enhance sexual pleasure and some studies have also suggested that their use can be associated with an increased risk of acquiring HIV infection. There is also substantial evidence suggesting that methamphetamine and poppers are often used together.

Large cohort study finds link between methamphetamine, unprotected sex, and HIV seroconversion

Investigators from the MACS cohort, an ongoing longitudinal study involving thousands of gay men recruited in waves since the mid-1980s, therefore designed a study to examine the association between methamphetamine, and other drug use, and sexual risk behaviour amongst men who were HIV-negative when they entered the cohort. In particular, they wished to see if the use of methamphetamine or any other drug increased the risk of unprotected sex and HIV seroconversion.

Every six months, men provided details of their drug taking and sexual behaviours and were tested for HIV. A total of 4,003 gay men, recruited to the cohort from 1985 to 2004, were included.

After adjusting for potentially confounding factors, the investigators found that men who reported use of methamphetamine had a relative risk of HIV seroconversion of 1.46 compared to men who did not use the drug. This risk increased to 2.10 if methamphetamine was used with poppers.

The investigators also established that the risk associated with methamphetamine use and HIV seroconversion increased, unsurprisingly, with the number of men a man had unprotected receptive sex with. A man reporting methamphetamine use and receptive unprotected sex with one partner had a relative risk of HIV seroconversion of 1.87. This risk increased to 9.32 for men who used methamphetamine and had receptive unprotected sex with five or more men.

Men who used both methamphetamine and poppers had an even greater risk of HIV seroconversion. Again, this risk increased with the number of partners a man had unprotected receptive anal sex with, the risk being 2.71 for men reporting one partner, but 13.57 for men using methamphetamine and poppers during unprotected receptive sex with five or more partners.

The investigators are unable to say from their research why the use of methamphetamine and poppers together contributed to an increased risk of HIV seroconversion, but speculate that “it is likely to be a multifactorial process involving behavioural disinhibition, anal trauma, and selection bias for higher risk sexual partners."

Californian study – methamphetamine use often occurring within the context of other drug use

Investigators in Los Angeles wished to determine the relationship between the use of illegal drugs and unprotected anal sex amongst gay men before and after seroconversion with HIV. They therefore designed a study involving 207 gay men with an estimated recent date of HIV seroconversion. These men were asked to provide details of their last three sexual partners and to say if drugs were used during sex with these men.

Data were collected a median of 13 weeks after the estimated date of HIV seroconversion. The men had a median age was 35 years, 70% were white, 46% were college graduates, and the median number of sexual partners in the previous three months was nine. Overall, 12% of all sexual partners were known to be HIV-positive, 42% were known to be HIV-negative, and 46% were of unknown status.

Before HIV seroconversion, unprotected sex was strongly associated with methamphetamine use (odds ratio, 7.12, p = 0.01). An association was also found between unprotected sex and the use of methamphetamine and other illicit substances (odds ratio, 4.06, p < 0.01). However, after diagnosis with HIV, no significant association was found between the use of methamphetamine and unprotected sex, but a significant relationship was found between the use of other drugs and risky sex (odds ratio, 3.25, p = 0.01).

“Methamphetamine use was associated with a greater odds of unprotected anal intercourse before HIV diagnosis but was not associated with unprotected anal intercourse after diagnosis”, write the investigators, adding, “in contrast, use of substances other than methamphetamine were not associated with unprotected anal intercourse before HIV diagnosis but were associated with a greater likelihood of unprotected anal intercourse after diagnosis.”

The investigators also recorded a “modest” reduction in the number of partners with whom men reported unprotected sex with after their HIV diagnosis. They suggest that this represents “a deliberate reduction in transmission behaviours.”

“There was a considerable overlap in use of many different substances (i.e. poly-drug use) with a single partner among our participants”, note the investigators. The 2005 UK Gay Men’s Sex Survey found similar evidence of poly-drug use amongst the few men it identified as using methamphetamine.

The investigators conclude “new interventions designed to reduce HIV transmission among men who have sex with men through cessation of substance use should consider different types of substance use, including poly-drug use.”

Reference

Plankey MW et al. The relationship between methamphetamine and popper use and risk of HIV seroconversion in the Multicenter AIDS Cohort Study. J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr 45: 85 – 92, 2007.

Drumright LN et al. Unprotected anal intercourse and substance use before and after HIV diagnosis among recently HIV-infected men who have sex with men. Sexually Transmitted Diseases 33: 401 – 407, 2007.