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elFreak
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Registered: Feb 2008
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link this atmospheric dubness.


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MrJiveBoJingles
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.

quote:
Originally posted by Armitage
Wow... I'm glad I decided to read the last few pages of this topic. Lots of interesting ideas being thrown about.

I've struggled with trying with trying to reconcile what I know to be good musically, and what I actually enjoy musically. I *think* I have pretty good taste in music, I enjoy many different genres and styles, but the stuff I listen to for pleasure is far simpler than a classical symphony. For christ's sake, Xpander is the same two chords over and over again - but I'd probably enjoy listening to it more than a great classical work.

I don't think "complex" necessarily means "good." Simple music can be great. One of my favorite classical pieces is the first movement of Gorecki's Symphony No. 3, but it's basically just the same twenty-four bar melody played with strings and repeating over and over in different registers:

http://www.philosophaster.com/music...st-movement.mp3

Seems like it would be difficult to compose just because of the way the different registers have to fit together, but the form is actually incredibly simple. Simpler than a lot of electronic music, even.

I wouldn't worry about "reconciling" your tastes. A person who has an honest enthusiasm for dance music is better in my book than some pretentious wanker who thinks the purchase of a couple Beethoven and Brahms recordings will lift him into the ranks of high society. A posture of musical snobbery can be an amusing way get people riled up, but it's just silly to take your tastes as the absolute measure of what's "good" or, even worse, try to corral and direct your own emotional responses and listening habits to conform to what someone else has told you is "good." Just listen to what you like and try to expand your horizons by looking for new kinds of music you might enjoy...

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Trance-M
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quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
It's an affinity for rhythm, most likely. It's a very primal sensation.


So true.
Only one person has it stronger than the other.
Like this track, so simple, so nice, you even could call it boring, but I just can't stop loving it....(or anything close to it).

Timeless Altitude


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Armitage
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Registered: Sep 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I don't think "complex" necessarily means "good." Simple music can be great. One of my favorite classical pieces is the first movement of Gorecki's Symphony No. 3, but it's basically just the same twenty-four bar melody played with strings and repeating over and over in different registers:


I agree, the point I was trying to make is that a well liked tune like Xpander (which I think is overrated but it's a good example) is considered 'good' by this board.

quote:
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It's an affinity for rhythm, most likely. It's a very primal sensation.


I don't know if that answer satisfies me

We all understand the hypnotic effect that a steady beat has, but I don't understand why it exists or how it works.

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Trance-M
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Registered: Oct 2005
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quote:
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We all understand the hypnotic effect that a steady beat has, but I don't understand why it exists or how it works.


I think you will find some answers if you check how Brainmachines work. Besides sound also light is being used.


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SYSTEM-J
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Location: Manchester

quote:
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I've listened to dance music for thousands of hours, probably millions of bass drum THUMPs. How is it that during that time I not only haven't grown bored of the simplest beat there is, but I still crave listening to it? There has to be something about this music that makes it uniquely attractive. I am totally and utterly clueless as to what it is, but I think it's there.


Paul Hartnoll (of Orbital) called it the "primal thump".


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elFreak
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many people use the analogy of the heart beat while in the womb, i just tend to think of it as something to let you know when you move your feet.


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MrJiveBoJingles
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Music with a lot of bass (most dance) can give a sensation of "primal" power that's really visceral because large amounts of bass are associated with big and powerful things moving: earthquakes, explosions, thunder, avalanches, certain animals roaring, etc. Most sounds in nature (i.e. not man-made) don't have a lot of bass content, and a lot of the ones that do are associated with fear, excitement, or awe.

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elFreak
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or more pills than pfizer.


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Trance-M
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Registered: Oct 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Music with a lot of bass (most dance) can give a sensation of "primal" power that's really visceral because large amounts of bass are associated with big and powerful things moving: earthquakes, explosions, thunder, avalanches, certain animals roaring, etc. Most sounds in nature (i.e. not man-made) don't have a lot of bass content, and a lot of the ones that do are associated with fear, excitement, or awe.



What I have heard it mainly has to do with frequencies. Getting hypnotised to me is about the opposite of fear, but I'm not an expert. Probably it's very complicated.....


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SMC
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Sweden

quote:
Originally posted by PETRAN
Neo-Prog rock like Oceansize


Oceansize are not neo-prog. Neo-prog was a 70s (symphonic) prog revival by a bunch of UK bands in the first half of the 80s. Marillion is the most obvious example.

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SYSTEM-J
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quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB
Getting hypnotised to me is about the opposite of fear, but I'm not an expert.


Is it? What about a rabbit in the headlights?


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