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jmauro
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ Eco
Word, we all hate our jobs. We work 9-5's five-six days a week because it's what we gotta do... The last thing we need is to spend 20, 30, sometimes 60$ to go to a place whose workers all hate their jobs and don't care about raining on our parades...

Bus drivers, diner waitresses, and MTA employees are all way friendlier than most Pacha employees, or a lot of clubs' employees for that matter... I've made a conscious decision not to support it unless my friends are playing there... Employees at places like Love and Sullivan Room have so much more work and wear & tear demanded on them (A.K., the doorman????) and do it with a smile on their faces and some sunshine to pass around to the club attendees...

Dani Lehman headline night!


I agree, I think this sums up the rest of what I would say on this thread. Especially the Doorman at Love, a perfect example to all doormen at clubs anywhere.

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jmauro
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quote:
Originally posted by Scoops
don't hold your breath....

the complaints will probably fall of deaf ears


I still have hope. change we can believe in...


quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
They are in for a HUGE wake up call the day another club opens. They will watch their money go down the tubes.....


The day that happens...oh i await the day that happens. I wish crobar would come back so I could experience it. It sucks that Pacha had to be my first huge club in the city.

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jmauro
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quote:
Originally posted by Victor Dinaire
Here's the entire track list for my opening and closing sets. There's a few missing in the very beginning and maybe 1 or 2 at the very end before the encores but I have 95% of it:


Opening Set:

Makotrax "Cold White"
The F Project "Rise" (DC Project Remix) [No Smoking Recordings]
Jewel Kid "Avventura" [Blaubeat]
Levente Featuring Shirley Levi "Vonat" (Tash Remix) [Baroque Digital]
Michael Cassette "Magenta Sunset" [Anjunadeep]
Barry Devlin "Crash" [Moya Records]
Jaytech "Metro" [Anjunadeep]
Marini, Noferini "Hey Dee Jay" [Deeperfect Records]
Treadstone "Inspirado" (Bathrope Remake) [Aleph Recordings]
Serge Devant Featuring Hadley "Addicted" [Ultra]
DJ Remy "Knalpot" [68 Recordings]
Conor Jay "Ascension" (Reuben Keeney Remix) [Tanira Music]
Holden & Thompson "Nothing" (Ad Brown & Jerome Robins Mix)
Jaytech "Nemesis" [Anjunadeep]
Arias "Atlantic" [Serial Records]
Alter Breed "Manifest" (Brisker & Magitman Remix) [Spherax]
Kris B, Nosmo "One For The Road" (Blake Jarrell Extended Remix) [Armada Music]
Dash Berlin with Cerf, Mitiska Featuring Jaren "Man On The Run" (Andy Duguid Remix) [Aropa]
Fady Ferraye "The Hashtray" [Goosebumps]
Sven Hauck "The Wait" [Babylon Records]
Victor Dinaire & Bissen Featuring Stephen Pickup "Run & Hide" (Anthony Ross and Chase Costello Remix)
Flux Capacitor "Delorean" (Bart Van Wissen Remix) [Curvve]
Clearview Featuring Jessica "Tell Me" (Max Graham Remix) [Songbird]
Kyau & Albert "Hide & Seek" [Euphonic]




Closing Set:
Paul van Dyk “For An Angel” (Spencer & Hill Remix) [Vandit]
Steve Brian "Yaya" (Ronski Speed Remix) [Euphonic]
Signum Feat Anita Kelsey "Come Around Again" (Signum 09 Remake) [Armada Music]
Victor Dinaire & Bissen Featuring Stephen Pickup "Run & Hide" (Less Vocal Mix)
Saints and Sinners "Peace" (Breakfast Remix) [Lost Language]
Whitecurve "Sonora" (Victor Dinaire's Lost Episode Remix) [Lange Recordings]
Above & Beyond Presents Oceanlab "Lonely Girl" (Gareth Emery Remix) [Anjunabeats]
Robbie Burian "Casino" (Re-Ward Remix) [Tone Diary]
The Killers "Spaceman" (Sander van Doorn Remix 2) [Island]
Debbie Loeb "How Does It Feel" (Victor Dinaire & Bissen Dub)
Fragma "Toca Me" (Inpetto Remix) [Tiger Records]
Gareth Emery "Metropolis" [Garuda]
Cressida "Nevermind" (Victor Dinaire & Bissen Remix) [Euphonic]
Carl B Featuring Breaking Benjamin "Diary Of Jane" (Sean Tyas Rework)
Frase "No Way Through" (Victor Dinaire's Lost Episode Remix) [Eve Records]


Encore
Karen Overton, Jose Amnesia "Your Loving Arms" (Ja Sunrise Mix) [Maelstrom]
Beber & Tamra "Traveling On" (Gabriel & Dresden's Campfire Mix) [Mob]


This was a great set. Thanks for the TL Vic.

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DPetey81
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Location: Columbus

Wow, I just read this entire "Review/DJ Comparison/Pacha Rant" thread... Interesting stuff, dont know where to start...

Review:
Got to Pacha later than expected, so missed most of Dinaire's opening set. Was very good from I heard, though. Found a really good spot on the main floor just before ATB came on and stayed there for a while. Enjoyed his set, and the energy was off the hook. Roamed around for a while and found myslf back on the main floor for all of Dinaire's closing set, which was awesome!! Closed it out and left for breakfast.

DJs:
First off, let me say that it's really too bad about people's bad experiences with ATB. I, personally, have never encountered one with him. In fact, most shows I've been to he's stayed afterwards signing, greeting, and taking pics. Damn shame this isn't always the case and it's really disappointing. As far as this whole dj argument goes, I don't think it's even a competition at all. Considering the type of music he produces, what he plays live, and where his roots lie, I don't think of ATB as a true "trance" artist in the mold of Ferry, Armin, Tiesto, etc. If I had to compare them all, even though ATB is my all time fav, I'd have to say those others far outrank him in trance production and live performance. But imo it's apples and oranges. A large portion of ATB's catalog is more ambient stuff, never meant to be played on the dance floor. The dance stuff he does produce carries a lot of eurodance undertones and is usually significantly different sounding than popular trance tunes. As far as his live performances, they also are very different than most. He usually plays older stuff mixed in with a lot of his own productions. I previously stated that I enjoyed his set on Friday, because I knew what to expect. I knew that he wouldn't drop a bunch of the current trance bombs, and I was ok with that especially since Dinaire was sure to play those tracks. But, I digress, if they all must be compared as trance artists, I'd give a huge edge currently to Ferry, Markus, A&B, etc...... especially live.

Pacha:
The problems experienced at Pacha seem to be a theme at a lot of huge parties everywhere nowadays. I had no trouble finding a spot to dance, and no problems with the staff, but I can see how there would be several problem areas with the size of the crowd. I completely agree that there are certain djs that should not be booked at clubs the size of Pacha. In any case, management of such clubs really need to get a handle on things, not only for customer service issues, but especially for the sake of everyone's safety.



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jovjo003
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quote:
Originally posted by DPetey81
Wow, I just read this entire "Review/DJ Comparison/Pacha Rant" thread... Interesting stuff, dont know where to start...

Review:
Got to Pacha later than expected, so missed most of Dinaire's opening set. Was very good from I heard, though. Found a really good spot on the main floor just before ATB came on and stayed there for a while. Enjoyed his set, and the energy was off the hook. Roamed around for a while and found myslf back on the main floor for all of Dinaire's closing set, which was awesome!! Closed it out and left for breakfast.

DJs:
First off, let me say that it's really too bad about people's bad experiences with ATB. I, personally, have never encountered one with him. In fact, most shows I've been to he's stayed afterwards signing, greeting, and taking pics. Damn shame this isn't always the case and it's really disappointing. As far as this whole dj argument goes, I don't think it's even a competition at all. Considering the type of music he produces, what he plays live, and where his roots lie, I don't think of ATB as a true "trance" artist in the mold of Ferry, Armin, Tiesto, etc. If I had to compare them all, even though ATB is my all time fav, I'd have to say those others far outrank him in trance production and live performance. But imo it's apples and oranges. A large portion of ATB's catalog is more ambient stuff, never meant to be played on the dance floor. The dance stuff he does produce carries a lot of eurodance undertones and is usually significantly different sounding than popular trance tunes. As far as his live performances, they also are very different than most. He usually plays older stuff mixed in with a lot of his own productions. I previously stated that I enjoyed his set on Friday, because I knew what to expect. I knew that he wouldn't drop a bunch of the current trance bombs, and I was ok with that especially since Dinaire was sure to play those tracks. But, I digress, if they all must be compared as trance artists, I'd give a huge edge currently to Ferry, Markus, A&B, etc...... especially live.

Pacha:
The problems experienced at Pacha seem to be a theme at a lot of huge parties everywhere nowadays. I had no trouble finding a spot to dance, and no problems with the staff, but I can see how there would be several problem areas with the size of the crowd. I completely agree that there are certain djs that should not be booked at clubs the size of Pacha. In any case, management of such clubs really need to get a handle on things, not only for customer service issues, but especially for the sake of everyone's safety.




TOTALLY TRUE!!! ATB's style is really more ambient type of trance. Artists like Enigma have been a big influence in how he creates his style. That's kinda why when you listen to his music like Future Memories and Movin Melodies, most of the music he creates is more mellow and low key. There are some tracks that pop with the vocals that he incorporates, but its not too progressive and uplifting compared to music created by Ferry, Tiesto, Above & Beyond, etc. Its always easy to tell whether music is by ATB. Its very different and its his own style of trance.

As far as getting autographs or pics, I must confess that he actually does stay afterwards or does it during his sets. Back in DC, he did sign autographs to his fans and even shook hands near the end of his set. He doesn't really seem like a people person or maybe he just shys away from his fans, thats kinda why its not really easy to meet him.

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I remember him telling everyone thank you several times and slapping hands with whoever could get their hand over the booth at the end.

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hellosam
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Registered: Jul 2008
Location: Brooklyn

quote:
Originally posted by DPetey81
Wow, I just read this entire "Review/DJ Comparison/Pacha Rant" thread... Interesting stuff, dont know where to start...

Review:
Got to Pacha later than expected, so missed most of Dinaire's opening set. Was very good from I heard, though. Found a really good spot on the main floor just before ATB came on and stayed there for a while. Enjoyed his set, and the energy was off the hook. Roamed around for a while and found myslf back on the main floor for all of Dinaire's closing set, which was awesome!! Closed it out and left for breakfast.

DJs:
First off, let me say that it's really too bad about people's bad experiences with ATB. I, personally, have never encountered one with him. In fact, most shows I've been to he's stayed afterwards signing, greeting, and taking pics. Damn shame this isn't always the case and it's really disappointing. As far as this whole dj argument goes, I don't think it's even a competition at all. Considering the type of music he produces, what he plays live, and where his roots lie, I don't think of ATB as a true "trance" artist in the mold of Ferry, Armin, Tiesto, etc. If I had to compare them all, even though ATB is my all time fav, I'd have to say those others far outrank him in trance production and live performance. But imo it's apples and oranges. A large portion of ATB's catalog is more ambient stuff, never meant to be played on the dance floor. The dance stuff he does produce carries a lot of eurodance undertones and is usually significantly different sounding than popular trance tunes. As far as his live performances, they also are very different than most. He usually plays older stuff mixed in with a lot of his own productions. I previously stated that I enjoyed his set on Friday, because I knew what to expect. I knew that he wouldn't drop a bunch of the current trance bombs, and I was ok with that especially since Dinaire was sure to play those tracks. But, I digress, if they all must be compared as trance artists, I'd give a huge edge currently to Ferry, Markus, A&B, etc...... especially live.

Pacha:
The problems experienced at Pacha seem to be a theme at a lot of huge parties everywhere nowadays. I had no trouble finding a spot to dance, and no problems with the staff, but I can see how there would be several problem areas with the size of the crowd. I completely agree that there are certain djs that should not be booked at clubs the size of Pacha. In any case, management of such clubs really need to get a handle on things, not only for customer service issues, but especially for the sake of everyone's safety.




nice point about ATBs show- i still love his shows bc i love his music and he is the person who introduced me to trance...so Id probably have been right there with you on that one.

happy to hear you knew what to expect adn enjoyed it also happy to hear you can back him up as an artist who actually meets with his fans I know he does from time to time- Im just really curious as to WHERE and WHY and WHY NOT at MOST places? (Too tired is a cop out, imo, if you really appreciate your fans)

As far as Pacha and noting that all big shows are like this. Roseland Ballroom to name one- never EVER had a problem there. Why? Its big enough. The staff seem to like their jobs, the bouncers are certeous, the place is not over crowded. I MUST note that the amount of fucked up people is a big too crazy but thats another story.

I probably shouldnt compare webster hall as Ive not been to someone of ATBs standard- but I heard no complaints about Ferrys show there.

We DO need at least ONE MORE club thats big enough for people like ATB, Markus, ect.


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AHH! Vic those sets look #$%^&*( AMAZING!

@Sammie- get back to work we have another trance show to get to tonight i do not want you held up at the office!!! I sound like your desperate husband or wife begging you to come home to me at night. thats okay. LOL.


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