Originally posted by yROMAN
1. This is precisely what me and a lot of others on here seem to be in disagreement about. But. I'm not going to go into another discussion on this, for neither person will change their opinion.
Your opinion will change in a few years. Mine won't.
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Originally posted by yROMAN
2. Watched the video you posted. A couple things:
- Why does it say 'Techno' something, while you're telling me it's the 'real' Trance?
- Uhm... it is something I'd never listen to and definitely would never spin. It is slow, obscure, minimal and plain boring, there is talking... it's everything that Trance is NOT and shall not be, in my opinion. So, thanks, but I'll stick to my shitty and cheesy AvB, A&B, PvD, etc. - at least their music is juicy and not only makes you wanna rip your clothes off, but actually makes you FEEL. While this nonsense makes me want to go to bed, and not for a good reason. Cheers.
It says 'techno' because the person who posted the video is as clueless as you are.
It's everything trance is not? Read this, you muppet:
Registered: Oct 2009
Location: Beverly Hills, California
quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
Oh, my.
You just shot yourself in the foot there. Yeah, you better leave. Come back when you've learned some of the history of the genre.
What does that have to do with anything? You people on here are really strange. I don't need to take "Trance Appreciation 101" to know whether I like a certain track or artist. Knowing the history is one thing and an important one, but, if I hear a tune and I get bored, learning about the technicalities or the historical perspective of it isn't going to make me like it.
Oct-23-2009 02:03
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
We're not talking about whether you like a particular track. We're talking about whether you like trance, and whether you can even hear what trance is.
Originally posted by yROMAN
What does that have to do with anything? You people on here are really strange. I don't need to take "Trance Appreciation 101" to know whether I like a certain track or artist. Knowing the history is one thing and an important one, but, if I hear a tune and I get bored, learning about the technicalities or the historical perspective of it isn't going to make me like it.
Which is fine I guess. After all, it's not like most fans of Garth Brooks ever bothered to check out Hank Williams Sr.
Just don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you decide to remain willfully ignorant of what came before.
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Oct-23-2009 02:07
yROMAN
tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2009
Location: Beverly Hills, California
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Some people grow out of their shit taste. It seems you're doomed to keep yours for the rest of your days. I pity you for that.
Maybe so. But let's compare notes 5 to 10 years from now, when I'll be doing what I want to be doing and you'll still be typing away in your room, bitching how Trance keeps getting worse by the year.
Oct-23-2009 02:11
SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester
quote:
Originally posted by yROMAN
Maybe so. But let's compare notes 5 to 10 years from now, when I'll be doing what I want to be doing and you'll still be typing away in your room, bitching how Trance keeps getting worse by the year.
You're what's wrong with trance music today - people with no clue about the music's history and what it's really about.
Uhm, okay. So, this was released in 1992. Yet, you were trying to prove a point that Trance music has changed and sort of evolved over time. Don't really see your point when we're almost in 2010 and you're posting something from almost 20 years ago to say that things changed since then.
Oct-23-2009 02:19
swanson
Senior tranceaddict
Registered: Oct 2005
Location: ON,Canada
havent been on the forum in ages..
too many people associate dance, or eurodance with trance...
but i like all, and im not ashamed..90's eurodance > trance
Oct-23-2009 02:21
woscar
Starstuff
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Guatemala, Guatemala
quote:
Originally posted by yROMAN
1. This is precisely what me and most of the others on this forum seem to disagree on: while I do believe that Cascada and such have absolutely nothing to do with quality and/or Trance, I do believe that songs like PvD's "Home" or "For An Angel", Armin's "Going Wrong" or "Fine Without You", Tiesto's "In The Dark" or "Break My Fall" are probably ones of THE greatest Trance tracks ever produced.
2. I still feel it's Trance. Just because it is not obscure, underground and known to an inner circle of 500 DJ's only - it doesn't make it non-"quality", in my opinion.
3. An opinion vs. An opinion, is all it is. I believe "Not Enough Time" by Cosmic Gate feat. Emma Hewitt is THE best Vocal Trance track of 2009, hands down. The two following - in my opinion - would be "Man On The Run" by Dash Berlin with Cerf, Mitiska & Jaren and "Unforgivable" by AvB feat. Jaren. Which I'm sure you'd consider "cheese", because most of the club-goers feel like ripping their clothes off, when those tunes come on.
4. All the DJ's I mentioned (and about half of them are newcomers) I find fantastic. And that's - again - just my opinion.
As for the links you posted, I'll check those out tomorrow, for it's almost 4 AM here, in California, and let you know what I think. Cheers.
OK, shit taste AND poor judgement. It's a vicious circle, really. Those of us who know better will tell you why you're wrong and you will keep saying stupid things like the ones I quoted above. Lather, rinse, repeat.
On what is it exactly that you base this statement?
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Originally posted by yROMAN
I do believe that songs like PvD's "Home" or "For An Angel", Armin's "Going Wrong" or "Fine Without You", Tiesto's "In The Dark" or "Break My Fall" are probably ones of THE greatest Trance tracks ever produced.
Do you really think that this...
Is better than this?
Notice how I'm not even being "underground" or obscure. These are tracks produced by the same producers you mentioned a decade ago or so.
Registered: Oct 2009
Location: Beverly Hills, California
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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
How old are you?
Don't worry about it. Just stand by your taste and principles, and 10 years from now you can tell your 3 dogs and 2 cats how you won an argument with some dude on TranceAddict.
Oct-23-2009 02:22
Domesticated
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Feb 2007
Location:
quote:
Originally posted by yROMAN
Uhm, okay. So, this was released in 1992. Yet, you were trying to prove a point that Trance music has changed and sort of evolved over time. Don't really see your point when we're almost in 2010 and you're posting something from almost 20 years ago to say that things changed since then.
Okay, fair point. The track is quite old.
Here is another example, from 2007. It is nothing like the crap that Armin makes.
Originally posted by yROMAN
Don't worry about it. Just stand by your taste and principles, and 10 years from now you can tell your 3 dogs and 2 cats how you won an argument with some dude on TranceAddict.
So you're a kid then, if you're too embarrassed to actually say your age.