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donnybrasco
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: L.A.

quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
Top U.S. Bin Laden Expert: Confession Video “Bogus”
by Kevin Barrett, http://mujca.com
2/17/06

Was Osama Bin Laden responsible for 9/11?

The Bush Administration says yes, citing a grainy, badly-edited videotape that surfaced in December, 2001. In that tape, a fat guy who vaguely resembles Bin Laden chortles about the success of the 9/11 attacks. (In earlier interviews, Bin Laden had denied responsibility for 9/11, once even deploring the loss of civilian life in the attacks and calling them un-Islamic.)

Is the famous “confession video” genuine?


LOL!!!!!!

Dude, COME ON!! You're the biggest fan of grainy, poorly edited videos!! And NOW you choose not to believe them, only when they don't suit your P.O.V.??



Seriously, Trancer; I'm laughing at you, not with you.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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bin laden video meeting 9/11 hijackers

video of Bin Laden taking responsibility


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pkcRAISTLIN
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Registered: Jul 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by Trancer-X
Top U.S. Bin Laden Expert: Confession Video “Bogus”
by Kevin Barrett, http://mujca.com
2/17/06

Was Osama Bin Laden responsible for 9/11?

The Bush Administration says yes, citing a grainy, badly-edited videotape that surfaced in December, 2001. In that tape, a fat guy who vaguely resembles Bin Laden chortles about the success of the 9/11 attacks. (In earlier interviews, Bin Laden had denied responsibility for 9/11, once even deploring the loss of civilian life in the attacks and calling them un-Islamic.)

Is the famous “confession video” genuine?


oh, for crying out loud. ive already posted concerning the "fat" bin laden and you totally ignore it. do you really have a desire for truth or not?


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Trancer-X
mutatis mutandis



Registered: Jul 2001
Location: Shambhala

quote:
Originally posted by donnybrasco
LOL!!!!!!

Dude, COME ON!! You're the biggest fan of grainy, poorly edited videos!! And NOW you choose not to believe them, only when they don't suit your P.O.V.??



Seriously, Trancer; I'm laughing at you, not with you.


No, it's simply because I've done my due diligence and at this point in time the puzzle pieces seem to fit.

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Trancer-X
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Location: Shambhala

BTW - I tend to watch those videos for the information contained therein, not for their illustrious production quality. I know that's probably very difficult for you to understand but it's a fact.

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I wonder why we've never heard anything else about that explosives laden truck or van from 9/11?








http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ10BXZAjDE

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Trancer-X
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Kevin Barrett: Media are ignoring 9/11 whistle-blowers

Letter to the editor — 1/26/2008 8:31 am

Dear Editor: I am out of a job because The Capital Times and other mainstream media outlets refuse to report the news.

As a scholar, my job is to seek and report the truth, no matter where it leads. That is also the job of the media.

Along with hundreds of other scholars, engineers, architects, and former high-level military, intelligence and executive branch officials (patriotsquestion911.com), I have pointed out that the official story of 9/11 is a ridiculous fairy tale, contradicted at every turn by overwhelming evidence. But rather than reporting on all of these people, and investigating the evidence they cite, the media singled me out for vicious attacks, up to and including a death threat from Bill O'Reilly.

Recently, the former president of Italy, Francesco Cossiga, stated publicly that the global intelligence community and the democratic forces in Europe know that the CIA and Mossad perpetrated the 9/11 attacks. Why wasn't that front page headlines?

Last week, the probable next prime minister of Japan, Yukihisa Fujita, grilled current prime minister Fukuda for half an hour about the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center and the staged events at the Pentagon and asked whether the Japanese police could arrest George W. Bush for his complicity in 9/11. Why wasn't that front page news? Japan, after all, is the world's second-largest economy, and if they are pulling the plug not just on financing the Iraq and Afghan wars, but the whole U.S. economy, because they know this country is led by 9/11 war criminals, maybe the American people should hear about it.

Also last week FBI whistle-blower Sibel Edmonds, who has implicated leading neocon ex-members of the Bush administration in the financing and coverup of 9/11, made front page headlines in the UK. Why won't the U.S. media cover Edmonds, the most gagged whistle-blower in U.S. history?

Why have the media refused to report on the 120+ senior military, intelligence service, law enforcement and government officials, 290+ engineers and architects, 60+ pilots and aviation professionals, 190+ professors, and 200+ 9/11 survivors and family members who have publicly blasted the official 9/11 fairy tale -- many of them openly calling 9/11 an inside job?

As for me, my reputation has been ruined, at least in the eyes of the fewer and fewer people naive enough to believe the mainstream media. I can no longer practice my chosen profession, in training for which I invested more than 10 years of my life and tens of thousands of dollars, because the media singled me out for distorted coverage -- while ignoring the hundreds of others vastly more qualified than I am who say the same things and refusing to investigate the evidence they cite.

Kevin Barrett

Lone Rock

http://www.madison.com/tct/opinion/letters/269331

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pkcRAISTLIN
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Registered: Jul 2002
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quote:

Recently, the former president of Italy, Francesco Cossiga, stated publicly that the global intelligence community and the democratic forces in Europe know that the CIA and Mossad perpetrated the 9/11 attacks. Why wasn't that front page headlines?


this is simply not true. read the ORIGINAL quote (not the edited one from the truthers) and its obvious all cossiga was doing was mocking the far left in italy.

its amazing what passes for "information" in the desperate world of a truther.


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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
this is simply not true. read the ORIGINAL quote (not the edited one from the truthers) and its obvious all cossiga was doing was mocking the far left in italy.

its amazing what passes for "information" in the desperate world of a truther.

I did a quick google search (in the middle of dinner and working on a project) and found an AFP article:
quote:
ITALIAN SAYS 9-11 SOLVED

It’s common knowledge, he reveals, CIA, Mossad behind terror attacks

By the Staff of American Free Press

Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga, who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio, has told Italy’s oldest and most widely read newspaper that the 9-11 terrorist attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad, and that this was common knowledge among global intelligence agencies. In what translates awkwardly into English, Cossiga told the newspaper Corriere della Sera:

“All the [intelligence services] of America and Europe…know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the Mossad, with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part … in Iraq [and] Afghanistan.”


Cossiga was elected president of the Italian Senate in July 1983 before winning a landslide election to become president of the country in 1985, and he remained until 1992.

Cossiga’s tendency to be outspoken upset the Italian political establishment, and he was forced to resign after revealing the existence of, and his part in setting up, Operation Gladio. This was a rogue intelligence network under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 1960s, 1970s and ’80s. Gladio’s specialty was to carry out what they termed “false flag” operations—terror attacks that were blamed on their domestic and geopolitical opposition.

In March 2001, Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated, in sworn testimony, “You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force … the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security.”

Cossiga first expressed his doubts about 9-11 in 2001, and is quoted by 9-11 researcherWebster Tarpley saying “The mastermind of the attack must have been a sophisticated mind, provided with ample means not only to recruit fanatic kamikazes, but also highly specialized personnel. I add one thing: it could not be accomplished without infiltrations in the radar and
flight security personnel.”

Coming from a widely respected former head of state, Cossiga’s assertion that the 9-11 attacks were an inside job and that this is common knowledge among global intelligence agencies is illuminating. It is one more eye-opening confirmation that has not been mentioned by America’s propaganda machine in print or on TV. Nevertheless, because of his experience and status in the world, Cossiga cannot be discounted as a crackpot.

(Issue #52, December 24, 2007)

Not Copyrighted. Readers can reprint and are free to redistribute - as long as full credit is given to American Free Press - 645 Pennsylvania Avenue SE, Suite 100 Washington, D.C. 20003

Source: AFP (American Free Press)

What the "original quote" supposed to be PKC?

EDIT: Bolded text.


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Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
What the "original quote" supposed to be


From circles around Palazzo Chigi, nerve centre of direction of Italian intelligence, it is noted that the non-authenticity of the video is testified from the fact that Osama bin Laden in it 'confessed' that Al Qaeda would have been the author of the attack of the 11 September to the Twin Towers in New York, while all of the democratic circles of America and of Europe, with in the forefront those of the Italian centre-left, now know well that the disastrous attack was planned and realized by the American CIA and Mossad with the help of the Zionist world to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and to persuade the Western powers to intervene in Iraq and Afghanistan. For this, no word of solidarity arrived to Silvio Berlusconi, who has been the author of the brilliant falsification, neither from the Quirinale, nor from Palazzo Chigi, nor from representatives of the centre-left!"



he's giving an opinion of the democrat left/liberals, not his own.

PrisonPlanet.com owns yoo.

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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
From circles around Palazzo Chigi, nerve centre of direction of Italian intelligence, it is noted that the non-authenticity of the video is testified from the fact that Osama bin Laden in it 'confessed' that Al Qaeda would have been the author of the attack of the 11 September to the Twin Towers in New York, while all of the democratic circles of America and of Europe, with in the forefront those of the Italian centre-left, now know well that the disastrous attack was planned and realized by the American CIA and Mossad with the help of the Zionist world to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and to persuade the Western powers to intervene in Iraq and Afghanistan. For this, no word of solidarity arrived to Silvio Berlusconi, who has been the author of the brilliant falsification, neither from the Quirinale, nor from Palazzo Chigi, nor from representatives of the centre-left!"



he's giving an opinion of the democrat left/liberals, not his own.

First of all, it would be nice if you could cite a source. Secondly, I see no implication of what your reading in to there.
quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
PrisonPlanet.com owns yoo.

Thirdly, maybe a half-cocked retard like yourself can't comprehend something this simple, but there's no direct correlation between not being a neocon whore and visiting prisonplanet.com. Perhaps you didn't understand it that time eigther, so let me clarify it for you once again; your childish stereo-types are not only false but also quite unoriginal and boring. Now run along and go back to being Dick and Bush's tool.


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Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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pkcRAISTLIN
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thanks for saving me the time Q5! and yes, he was merely mocking the centre left in his own country.

the most telling difference between the articles is that the prisonplanet version replaces (something like) "the left in italy" with "intelligence services in europe" which is just more dishonesty.

what is also removed from the troofer version is him talking about a soon to be released exclusive video that pieces 9/11 together and shows the US was behind it. no video of course has surfaced, cossiga is merely mocking the progressives in the country. cossiga is a centre-right in case nobody knew.

quote:

Now run along and go back to being Dick and Bush's tool.


that's an interesting comment coming from someone that posts an incorrect and incomplete translation from prisonplanet or similar, and takes it at face value without checking up on it first. tsk tsk.

everybody in italy knew what cossiga was saying, its only the 911 americans that are struggling. all that stuff that is added about "an honest politician" is just nonsense, as evidenced by his role in the blakops of NATO that he helped set up.

ive been waiting for a retraction from cossiga to end all doubt for your side, but im still waiting. dont worry, when and if it comes you'll be the first to know!


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