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Originally posted by Sushipunk Yeah, every single one of my American friends have said the same thing to me. The media, in general, is highly highly insular to anything that doesn't have an immediate or potential effect on the US. Australia is quite opposite at times though. Nothing particularly exciting happens here, so there is a lot of focus on international 'whatevers.'

SBS news is the best for that kind of coverage, ABC running a close second but the commercial stations are the usual lot of riff raff journalism and 'trite' current affairs.

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Originally posted by Lilith Hehehe... you should have tried getting in and out of the US and in particular about the time of the 9-11 attacks if you wanted to see isolationism at it's worst. Harare-Johannesburg-Dubai-Paris-NY Not quite white Suitcase full of chemicals Been to the middle east recently have we? Nail files Then they found out I had a current pilots licence

Worst combination at the worst time, ever.

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Originally posted by mezzir yeah thats the truth as for the news, i get most of mine from the bbc or npr i like radio

Yeah, NPR is really the only thing about our "mass media" I like.

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Originally posted by Lilith Hehehe... you should have tried getting in and out of the US and in particular about the time of the 9-11 attacks if you wanted to see isolationism at it's worst. Harare-Johannesburg-Dubai-Paris-NY Not quite white Suitcase full of chemicals Been to the middle east recently have we? Nail files Then they found out I had a current pilots licence

Holy shit.

Well, that trip would have been fun....

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Originally posted by Lilith You go play with it first them... I'll be standing over here about 16,000km away watching to make sure you're doing it properly.

k!

Wait, did you have some for me, orrrr---

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Originally posted by Lilith the US isolation though is extraordinary.

It truly is an awesome thing. And I don't mean that in a positive way. It's just amazing how the manipulation of information can be used in such a way to completely polarize several million people with the mere fluctuation of pixel transmission. Why, you could invade a country - or several for that matter - without anyone knowing any better. You could even wage secret wars around the world with nobody really knowing that they were, in fact, fronting the bill for it all. Truly amazing.

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Originally posted by Sushipunk Holy shit. Well, that trip would have been fun....

Getting out was slightly worse actually, there was a 'fuss' and I'll probably have to wait until there's a change of administration before they'll ever let me back in there on a work visa again...

Damn, and here I was, about to ask you to come to my Halloween party.

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Originally posted by Lilith Getting out was slightly worse actually, there was a 'fuss' and I'll probably have to wait until there's a change of administration before they'll ever let me back in there on a work visa again...

Damn.

Is that why you headed to Oz then?

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On It truly is an awesome thing. And I don't mean that in a positive way.

Yep, it still staggers the mind to notice the latest crop of conspiracy lunatics who are looking inward for things like the 9-11 attacks as being a 'self pwn' from the government. It makes me laugh in a sort of very dark-humoured way because of their own ignorance about what the US state gets up too outside their own borders.
People, sadly and sometimes are justified in hating the USA, because Uncle Sam is doing them over and a very small percentage hate the US enough to go beyond buying the 'I hate USA' t-shirt and flag burning to actually go blow some stuff up.

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Originally posted by Sushipunk Is that why you headed to Oz then?

Sort of, I ended up back in Aust on sort of a refugee/residency status after Zimbabwe went to hell. There's all sorts of dodgy reasons I wasn't allowed back into the US, mostly my own fault in the end but not a lot which I could do about it and certainly cannot talk about.

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Originally posted by Lilith Yep, it still staggers the mind to notice the latest crop of conspiracy lunatics who are looking inward for things like the 9-11 attacks as being a 'self pwn' from the government.

Keep it down, we don't want pkc in on this...

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Originally posted by Lilith Sort of, I ended up back in Aust on sort of a refugee/residency status after Zimbabwe went to hell. There's all sorts of dodgy reasons I wasn't allowed back into the US, mostly my own fault in the end but not a lot which I could do about it and certainly cannot talk about.

Well Lilith, if nothing else, you have indeed led a particularly hardcore life

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Keep it down, we don't want pkc in on this...

Those kinds of guys in the now 'infamous' PDD debate are all over the engineering and political reasons for these kinds of things, they don't touch on the psychological profile of either-
Themselves (short of name calling that is)
The people that do it and the people that cause it
The outside events leading up to it (50+ years of woeful policy)

I think we're pretty safe
Lot of its why I gave up having anything to do with that stupid forum... probably Lira's fault for not banning more of them

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Originally posted by Sushipunk Well Lilith, if nothing else, you have indeed led a particularly hardcore life

It's really dull now!
(Just the way I like it)

I doubt it's dull, you're just jaded by now.

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