you can argue all of the little details that you want but the fact of the matter is that the NIST report says that the steel never even got hot enough to melt (but which it apparently did)

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"If you ridicule others who have sincere doubts and who know factual information that directly contradicts the official report and who want explanations from those who hold the keys to our government, and have motive, means, and opportunity to pull off a 9/11, but you are too lazy or fearful to check into the facts yourself, what does that make you?" - Lt. Col. Shelton F. Lankford, U.S. Marine Corps (ret) http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/...20Lankford.html

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Originally posted by Trancer-X If you shoved all the molten steel from underneath

just goes to show what trancer really knows. at no time has any of the substances been confirmed as "steel" and again, it'd be iron anyway.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN just goes to show what trancer really knows. at no time has any of the substances been confirmed as "steel" and again, it'd be iron anyway.

right. more troother selective reasoning.

there are probably dozens of different kinds of metals and alloys in abundant tonnage in 13.4 million sq/ft of office complex.

...but all troother reasoning requires all the molten metal to be steel in chemistry and all of it to be melted buy an infinite supply of thermite. makes perfect sense.

for every part of iron produced you would need 2 parts thermite. the amount of thermite required (enough to keep burning for 6 weeks no less!) is truly ridiculous.

thermite has also never ever been used for anything even approaching controlled demolition. you would never be able to recreate the collapse of a building like WTC7 in the fashion we saw it come down, with thermite. its simply too chaotic and slow to demolish a building in a progressive fashion like that.

its just absolute nonsense that to commit the greatest public fraud in history, they would go for some outlandishly dumb plan as to demolish a building, 6ish hours later, using thermite.

what kind of fool thinks that makes ANY sense at all? i mean, fuck. it really does boggle the mind. they get so caught up in every supposed inconsistency, yet don't see the glaring holes as big as jupiter, and they just choose to ignore it. what exactly really happened to that plane that didnt hit the pentagon, and where did all the DNA evidence come from?

how are some people so intellectually dishonest? it blows me away sometimes

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Originally posted by Trancer-X

no. a building hit that building.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN http://www.structuremag.org/Archive...lsanz-Nov07.pdf

wow! peer reviewed scientific and computer analysis and everything! it's almost like i don't have to think for myself. i can just accept what other people tell me and live happily-ever-ignorant.

...now if someone can just walk me up to the edge of a cliff and put my hind legs in their boots i'll be set!

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Originally posted by Q5echo wow! peer reviewed scientific and computer analysis and everything! it's almost like i don't have to think for myself. i can just accept what other people tell me and live happily-ever-ignorant. ...now if someone can just walk me up to the edge of a cliff and put my hind legs in their boots i'll be set!

I wonder if that relied on the faulty NIST data or if they had to tweak their computer simulation like the NIST did by removing many of the core columns in order to initiate a collapse.

When I get more time I'll expound upon that.

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Originally posted by Q5echo no. a building hit that building.

WTC 7 began exploding well before the twin towers ever came down, though.

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Barry Jennings' (Deputy Director of the Emergency Services Department, New York City Housing Authority) first hand account of his experience inside WTC7. He witnessed firsthand explosions (as well as dead bodies strewn all over the lobby) inside of WTC7 before the Twin Towers came down.

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Yukihisa Fujita of the Japanese main opposition party questions 9/11 in Parliament

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Yukihisa Fujita (藤田 幸久, Yukihisa Fujita? born 1950) is a Japanese politician of the Democratic Party of Japan, a member of the House of Councillors in the Diet (national legislature). A native of Mito, Ibaraki and graduate of Keio University, he was elected to the House of Representatives for the first time in 1996. After losing the 2000 re-election, he was elected to the House of Representatives for the second time in 2003. Losing his seat again in the 2005 re-election, he was elected to the House of Councillors for the first time in 2007. In mid-January 2008, Fujita made a 30 minute presentation before a session of the Japanese Defense and Foreign Affairs Committee that was broadcast live nationwide on Japanese NHK television. The Japanese Defense and Foreign Affairs Committe was discussing Japan's continued contribution to the US in Afghanistan. Fujita questioned Japan's continuing support for the US 'war on terror' and the US invasion and occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq because he believes there are too many doubts about 9/11. During Fujita's presentation, a staffer holds up several large photos and diagrams including photos of the damaged Pentagon with a 757 airplane superimposed to illustrate conflicts with the official story. Fujita also asks the Prime Minister, Finance Minister and Foreign Minister about, and requests, investigation by Japanese authorities into Japanese citizens killed in New York on September 11, 2001, instead of just taking US authorities word. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukihisa_Fujita