it makes sense RJ where you're talking about guaranteed/improved service levels... and in fact it's already happening at the consumer level today!

Shaw already offers a quality of service package to their own end-user Internet customers where for $10 per month extra, they get an improved QoS for their connection that is being advertised to improve voip that runs over the public internet in particular:

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Enhance Your Internet Telephony Service. Shaw High-Speed Internet customers now have the opportunity to improve the quality of Internet telephony services offered by providers such as Vonage and Primus. Learn about the Shaw Quality of Service Enhancement.

http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsSe...Enhancement.htm

it already happens for websites, buisnesses...

I don't believe companies like itunes and others, get the "regular" package from their provider. They get QoS guarantees, redondant lines, punitive clauses, etc.

They even use services like akmai who has thousand of servers worldwide to propagate data withtout it going thru many hops.

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I'm not talking DIRECT PROVIDERS. I'm not talking arm's length suppliers. You guys keep going back to this - this is -not- what I'm talking about.

What I'm talking about is paying money for data tx priority with the N-th hop fiber/network owners (priority over all other passthrough data).

The model makes even more sense if the fiber/network owners throttle non-priority passthrough data. Imagine!

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On another note, the Samsung A920 still isn't available from Bell.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker I'm not talking DIRECT PROVIDERS. I'm not talking arm's length suppliers. You guys keep going back to this - this is -not- what I'm talking about. What I'm talking about is paying money for data tx priority with the N-th hop fiber/network owners (priority over all other passthrough data). The model makes even more sense if the fiber/network owners throttle non-priority passthrough data. Imagine!

dude i get it, what you don't understand is that its like a cascade, first hand provider in order to deliver these guarantees have to see his supplier to get the same deal, etc etc... its a domino effect.

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Originally posted by malek dude i get it, what you don't understand is that its like a cascade, first hand provider in order to deliver these guarantees have to see his supplier to get the same deal, etc etc... its a domino effect.

It won't be a true cascade if Bill Smith, chief technology officer at BellSouth is going to be charging content companies to use his fiber.

Further - it isn't going to continue to be a cascade if telephone and cable and wireless companies to work out a way to deliver traffic at various levels of service quality.

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 On another note, the Samsung A920 still isn't available from Bell.

http://www.bell.ca/shop/en_CA_ON/63699.details

People have bought them from Bell World stores.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker It obviously isn't a true cascade if Bill Smith, chief technology officer at BellSouth is going to be charging content companies to use his fiber. Further - it obviously isn't going to continue to be a cascade if telephone and cable and wireless companies to work out a way to deliver traffic at various levels of service quality.

BellSouth sounds like a company who wants to higher its fees but don't know which reason to invent... because bandwidth is cheaper than it ever been.

Well, let them higher their prices, competitviness and free market will do the rest.

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Originally posted by malek BellSouth sounds like a company who wants to higher its fees but don't know which reason to invent... because bandwidth is cheaper than it ever been. Well, let them higher their prices, competitviness and free market will do the rest.

Fair enough. That very well could be a reasonable explanation to BellSouth's motives.

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I agree with the prediction of large scale tiered QoS for data rx/tx in the not so distant future.

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Originally posted by daves it makes sense RJ where you're talking about guaranteed/improved service levels... and in fact it's already happening at the consumer level today!

Very interesing. Shaw should go after the companies making money off their networks as well - hit up both sides of the equation (corporation + consumer).

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one more thing, why is BellSouth so preoccupied about QoS now? Its not like content makers (ex: itunes) are being sued for not delivering to their clients... the more i think about this, the more i believe its an elaborated cash grab.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker http://www.bell.ca/shop/en_CA_ON/63699.details People have bought them from Bell World stores.

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