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Vizay
immiNspired



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Stockholm & in my mind

just to clear one thing up, if you read my post again you will see that I'm not insinuating that you were dissing an artist, you did sound like you were dissing the supersaw waveform since you wanted this thread to die. I simply don't believe that you wrote it because you thought this thread was too long. Threads with much info usually are long and that's never a negative thing. if you think that then you are browsing forums overall for the wrong reasons.

and as I wrote to you in my answer to your PM, no I'm not suicidal and no I'm not a maniac (I can't see what that even has with this to do tbh).

and btw. why are you so shure that I'm a guy?


ohh and another thing, you haven't answered my second question yet


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Old Post Mar-25-2006 13:34  Sweden
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LENG
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Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

i'm liking this supersaw patch (3xosc)... hope it doesn't sound for-hard-trance-only... hehehe

http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=...891JFS7TOSMU2B9

i read in many forums underestimating this synth... well, i hope this will give this lil dude justice

Old Post Mar-26-2006 08:46  Malaysia
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Lunar Phase 7
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Registered: Dec 2004
Location: Zone 4

The 3Osc is such a good synth.

I always use it. Most people seem to over look it in favour of the bigger "more pro" ones.

3Osc is good for Basslines, leads, pads, strings, acid (to some degree) and you can get some good textures out of it too with tweaking.

Old Post Mar-27-2006 16:14  United Kingdom
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DJ Renekk
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Registered: Feb 2006
Location: United States

quote:
Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7
The 3Osc is such a good synth.

I always use it. Most people seem to over look it in favour of the bigger "more pro" ones.

3Osc is good for Basslines, leads, pads, strings, acid (to some degree) and you can get some good textures out of it too with tweaking.


The only reason for this is that not everyone uses FLStudio and people go for more univesal plugins "Native Instruments and Novation for example". I'm not saying the synth sucks "but it lacks a good unison mode, which is required to make pads and leads not sound "fake"", all I am saying is that some people don't like using FLStudio or they can't because its Windows only. If only FL would be made cross-platform. They would get SO many more customers "me atleast, looks like good software ((EVEN though I will never leave Ableton Live ;-))."

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Frost-RAVEN
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: San Francisco

Bump!!!

This is mega saws guys, I want to keep this thread alive.


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Old Post Apr-03-2006 20:41  United States
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LENG
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Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

alright... time to revive this massive fat thread.

here's my run on the supersaw with v-station.
lemme know if ya think it needs fixing.

clip:
http://files.to/get/61280/46931/aramanja_-_memories.mp3

Last edited by LENG on May-28-2006 at 10:50

Old Post May-28-2006 05:18  Malaysia
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substorm
Onova|2007



Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Tranceland

This is my sample, and i made a tutorial on it, if u check the forum

Made with V-Station, not external fx added.

Enjoy

MP3 HERE

PLAY IT LOUD!


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Old Post May-28-2006 11:22  Sweden
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LENG
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Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

hi substorm... i noticed you used noise in the saw pad of yours... the clip sounded a lil bit noisy with the extra noise you had there. maybe if you could try minimise it a lil bit more (or better still have it off), it could just sound better anyway, it's just personal preference...

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Derivative
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Dublin

Im getting pretty close with a Virus B. I think a couple more revisions and some touching up on the post EQ and a fecking pair of monitors so I can hear what I'm doing ( ), I'll have it almost dead on within the next 2 months. Will need feedback on the EQ as I havent cross referenced it on headphones yet. It may have too much top end past 18,000hz and not enough upper mid range.

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The entire sound cannot be played back in 24 voices. Not with the release envelopes as long as they are. In order to get a similar timbre to the supersaw oscillator, I had to use 3 notes with unison x5 on and the 3rd oscillator.

That is 3x 5 voices = 15 voices to play chords.

Then, I doubled it up in FL Studio, which is another 3x 5 voices = another 15 voices.

Then I rendered intervals being played with slightly higher detune (unison detune was already on 127), higher panspread and a slower attack envelope.

The whole thing was mixed at the recorded output levels and the end result = 15 + 15 + 10 voices = 40 voices at 4 oscillators per voice.

That is, 120 detuned saw waves and 40 triangle waves. 2 to 3 times that number if you factor in the delay. Thats a lorra saw waves. More than I expected in order to simulate supersaw timbres anyway.

There are 2 instances of Fruity Delay on it, SIR reverb and a number of post/corrective EQs.

As of today, I think I have the timbre down, nearly perfect. But the post EQ is not right yet. The overall sound is still duller at the upper mid kind of area than the JP Supersaw - at least the sample I am referencing this patch from.

If I could get a recording of a raw supersaw oscillator played at C2, C3. C4 and C5 at various unison settings, then a filter resonance sweep soundtest of a supersaw oscillator, I think I can model it more closesly.

Last edited by Derivative on Jun-02-2006 at 21:08

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everyMan
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Registered: Apr 2005
Location: Paris, France

Here is my try : http://perso.wanadoo.fr/TranceDevotion%20/JP8000.mp3


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LENG
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Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

it's the same patch... slight tuning...

oh yeah, please don't mind the quality, it's just the saw i'm trying to emphasize here... the bass, submelo, and melody are using the same sound set. beats aren't fx'ed...

http://files.to/get/62871/8464/untitled.mp3

Last edited by LENG on May-29-2006 at 02:23

Old Post May-29-2006 02:15  Malaysia
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Dj_Es-Dva
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Registered: Jul 2005
Location: City, Country format (ex. Paris, France)

does anyone have any tips on making supersaw's in sytrus? i like 3x0sc but i mainly use sytrus...for everything really hehe but i cant get that sound just right

thanks

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