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Originally posted by DJFreaq Recently. I have been becoming a more active user. I registered back in 2003 simply for the selfish reason of finding track lists, and didn't give a hoot about the TA community. But starting in late 2004 I did start to care, and started really participating in the MPP and PS forums. So I'm bumping this. Because it's worthy of conversation still. I really have enjoyed the good conversations in MD. But sadly. Most of the good ones. Are older ones; and I've noticed a growing trend of shit-saturation in ALL the forums. I thought I'd share my comments about this issue. Because I too have posted either silly threads or dumb comments in MD. And now I see how good this particular forum could be/once was. I was reading it from the beginning. And a lot of people confuse elitists with jerks. The true TA elites on here aren't going to be-little you and make fun of your for your tastes. They might jab at you a bit, but that's par for the course of being a new user. It's happened to me several times. It's a right of passage. Get over it. We were all noobs once (the song that was in the background was actually the 2003 Remix of Gamemaster, but silly me). The real elitists do suggest neat new songs for your ears; have good thoughts and overall have a pretty good attitude. But unfortunately MD seems to be filled now a days with two types of people I've seen. 1. The pseudo-elitist jerks: Whose replies and comments consist mainly of "TIESTO SUCKS" and other sarcastic comments. I know this, because I've been there, and unfortunately the internet makes it all too easy to be a jerk. There are also the kind of people who utterly ignore posts too, because it seems too below them. I've posted advice in even seemingly "dumb" threads. How else are youngn's going to learn? 2. Dumb Noobs: There's noobs... who occasionally post something silly and old (which to them is new.) But they learn quickly the search feature. And are generally decent members. And then there's the dumb noobs, which are really more like trolls. And I can't stand them. They always ask the same question over and over again. They never seem to have anything positive to say. And the never EVER learn the search button. I should point out that most of these toolsheds end up finding their way to the COR and just stagnating there screaming "BBQ" and "ORLY." (although I'll admit to loving anything owl-related now) So I do feel for Floorfiller (this is what he means by being nice: he posted a complete discog with pics of the gatecrasher series, even though I noobed it up by posting the request in the wrong section and I didn't use the search feature). I haven't been as active as long as many of the ta "old school" here. But I definitely get the feeling the MD gets more trite by the day. And like others had stated in this thread; it's not just MD that's affected. The DJ Booth suffers, production studio, music producer promotion... the list goes on. I get this bad feeling sometimes that Tranceaddict is just become too saturated. It seems every other day some troll is spamming a new "OMGTRANCEMUSICWEBSITE" in one of the promotion forums. I'm sick and tired of it too. There. Those are my thoughts. Goodnight.

Amazing post ! I entirely agree... I'm not an elitist nor a noob, but I know exactly how you feel

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Originally posted by kid nyce i got a solution lets all get together in a room, drop some e-bombs and group hug girls must be topless to say the least!

just as long as ur not topless brian.. i'm in!

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I practically have left this place years ago. Left crap trance. I got the enlightenment with psy.

Nowadays I'm seldom (indeed) coming back, bitching about the current crap releases, dropping some very few suggestions and then disappearing again for a few weeks

Does that make me elitist?

I hope so!

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Originally posted by RTP I practically have left this place years ago. Left crap trance. I got the enlightenment with psy. Nowadays I'm seldom (indeed) coming back, bitching about the current crap releases, dropping some very few suggestions and then disappearing again for a few weeks Does that make me elitist? I hope so!

I sympathize. I've been getting progressively more into Psy, and reading psynews.org more and more. But I haven't given hope on trance yet.

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 Don't leave spirit, then nobody will be around to write giant posts with me, or play along in a conversation that nobody else is interested in!

Haha don't worry, i'm not leavin. I find this place rather helpful. Like I said, i've met some great people on here too. For the one or two jerks, there are four or five nice people, like yourself. And yes, we both have a lot to say. It's nice that we offer a different angle to the scene and the music, not to say we are elists in this respect, but we just think differently than the average clubber or whoever. Like I said in my post, we all come from different backgrounds, different perspectives on life and music, and the music does something different to each one of us. This doesn't mean we all are right in our respect, but I would say that you and I are onto something with our perspectives (okay maybe that is a half-elitist comment hehe), it's true though....

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Originally posted by DJFreaq I sympathize. I've been getting progressively more into Psy, and reading psynews.org more and more. But I haven't given hope on trance yet.

Question...and this might SEEM biased or elitist (it's not though) but why do people seem to be getting more into psy? especially on here..it seems more and more people when they evolve they get into psy, but I'm getting more into progressive (well I always have been into it, not as much as epic, but i've been finding more in the prog catagory that appeals to me then in either the epic or psy trance stuff lately). But I do like some "progressive psy" I guess you can call it, esp Incolumis, "One With Sanctuary" is brilliant, hope there is more like that..the big booming bass and the acidy noises I hear a lot of in psy just doesn't appeal to me much...I prefer deep and spacey. I guess i'm interested in the psychology of it or what appeals to people with Psy trance...I'm not saying there is anything wrong with Psy, just what makes people like it...the scene itself seems really cool though, i'll give that to you. That might appeal to me, more so than the club scene....

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I say we get rid of the Chill Out Room.

Then only ppl who are concerned w/ learning about music, producing or DJing will frequent here.

please?

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Originally posted by Spirit5 Question...and this might SEEM biased or elitist (it's not though) but why do people seem to be getting more into psy? especially on here..it seems more and more people when they evolve they get into psy, but I'm getting more into progressive (well I always have been into it, not as much as epic, but i've been finding more in the prog catagory that appeals to me then in either the epic or psy trance stuff lately). But I do like some "progressive psy" I guess you can call it, esp Incolumis, "One With Sanctuary" is brilliant, hope there is more like that..the big booming bass and the acidy noises I hear a lot of in psy just doesn't appeal to me much...I prefer deep and spacey. I guess i'm interested in the psychology of it or what appeals to people with Psy trance...I'm not saying there is anything wrong with Psy, just what makes people like it...the scene itself seems really cool though, i'll give that to you. That might appeal to me, more so than the club scene....

I wouldn't call One with sanctuary prog psy. Proper prog psy is stuff like Son Kite, Antix, FREq, Yotopia, Phony Orphants etc.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 I wouldn't call One with sanctuary prog psy. Proper prog psy is stuff like Son Kite, Antix, FREq, Yotopia, Phony Orphants etc.

Ok, I was just under the impression it was. What would you consider it? It's a bit different than other progressive, the bassline in particular is somewhat reminicient of some psy, but much deeper...slower..

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Originally posted by Spirit5 Question...and this might SEEM biased or elitist (it's not though) but why do people seem to be getting more into psy? especially on here..it seems more and more people when they evolve they get into psy, but I'm getting more into progressive (well I always have been into it, not as much as epic, but i've been finding more in the prog catagory that appeals to me then in either the epic or psy trance stuff lately). But I do like some "progressive psy" I guess you can call it, esp Incolumis, "One With Sanctuary" is brilliant, hope there is more like that..the big booming bass and the acidy noises I hear a lot of in psy just doesn't appeal to me much...I prefer deep and spacey. I guess i'm interested in the psychology of it or what appeals to people with Psy trance...I'm not saying there is anything wrong with Psy, just what makes people like it...the scene itself seems really cool though, i'll give that to you. That might appeal to me, more so than the club scene....

Yea +1 for the more deep progressive end of Psy. Ticon, Cosma (can get tweaky and full on, but mostly dark and brooding), Atmos, Son Kite, Freq. That is the sort of psy I'm into. The full on stuff is fantastic in small doses (Astrix, 1200 Mics etc) and even the more commercially appealing "psy" i love and listen to (Infected Mushroom being the most obvious example.)

But yea. This is more a subject geared for a "psy" thread. But you wanted to know my thoughts on it. And there you go.

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Originally posted by Spirit5 Ok, I was just under the impression it was. What would you consider it? It's a bit different than other progressive, the bassline in particular is somewhat reminicient of some psy, but much deeper...slower..

it's normal progressive trance, just with a different bassline. But it's not the style which you will find within prog psy.

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