dumb americans call it futbol if they dont refer to it as soccer how stupid

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Originally posted by InterMilan31 dumb americans call it futbol if they dont refer to it as soccer how stupid

I think you (and others) have hammered that point enough by now. It's not changing. You live here how much of the year? You know what football is in this country. It's been called that since before the World Cup started. If you'd like somehow get the NFL to change what its sport is called, then we'll all call it football. Until then, it's soccer in the US (and in some other countries, too), so people in this country know what sport you're referring to.

Seriously, this bitching about the name of the sport is about one of the most trivial arguments I've heard regarding the US and the World Cup. You're not calling it the right thing either, as any version of "football" necessitates an adjective to say what kind

Here's a quick segment from the Wikipedia article on "The History of American Football" that may clear things up. Source

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Varieties of "football" Within the spectrum of modern football codes there are several "families", which have diverged from and/or influenced each other in their development. Many of these games have their origins in varieties of football played in England. By the 1850s, the two main families of football in England were the "kicking games", in which the ball was mostly kicked along the ground, and the "running games", in which the ball was mostly carried by players. Some codes combined elements from both families. In 1845, at Rugby School in England, rugby football became the first of the running games to have codified rules. The best-known of the kicking games is "Association Football" (a name commonly shortened to "Football" or "Soccer" in north america), which began with the code devised in 1863 in England, by The Football Association.

If anything, Rugby should get to be called "football" since it was the first using the word to have codified rules.

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Im annoyed by the soccer/football thing but apparently it was a british invention, namely british universities so the americans are not that much at fault i guess, although you would think they would go along with the rest of the world as its been quite a while from the days where there was a good reason to call it 'soccer'.

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Main articles: Football (soccer) names and Football (word) The rules of football were codified in England by the Football Association in 1863, and the name association football was coined to distinguish the game from the other forms of football played at the time, specifically rugby football. The term soccer first appeared in the 1880s as a slang abbreviation of Association football, often credited to Charles Wreford-Brown.[18] Today the sport is known by a number of names throughout the English-speaking world, the most common being football and soccer. The term used depends largely on the need to differentiate the sport from other codes of football followed in a community. Football is the term used by FIFA, the sport's world governing body, and the International Olympic Committee. For more details of naming throughout the world, please refer to the main articles above.

<--- From wikipedia soccer

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Orbax At that point you kind of crossed the rubicon and you might as well lay siege to Rome

lol beat me to it groundhog

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Orbax At that point you kind of crossed the rubicon and you might as well lay siege to Rome

Your the voice of reason Groundhog! I like your reasoning on several posts.

We definitely like to do things our own way though in the U.S. Height is measured in feet, weight in pounds, distance in miles, and temperature in fahrenheit. I'll make sure to blame my forefathers about their choices the next time I visit their graves.

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Originally posted by Member of X Your the voice of reason Groundhog! I like your reasoning on several posts. We definitely like to do things our own way though in the U.S. Height is measured in feet, weight in pounds, distance in miles, and temperature in fahrenheit. I'll make sure to blame my forefathers about their choices the next time I visit their graves.

I'm completely with you on your frustration with our reluctance to convert to the metric system. God forbid we'd use some system that didn't require the memorization of stupid conversions.

How many ounces in a cup again? And is that ounces in weight or volume? Talk about a way of handicapping the stupid kids who can't learn them all. At least in metric, you only have to learn prefixes.

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Originally posted by nrjizer If you're going to give Ghana a PK on such a bogus call, then you should give their keeper a red card for delaying the game just now with his antics. Seriously, the US might not be the best team in the world, but one thing I have never seen them do is dive left and right and roll on the ground like they've been shot. The level of dramatic faking in this World Cup is disgusting, and save for retarded referees, it's the biggest problem in this sport today. If the WC refs are going to be giving yellow cards for bumping another player, and reds for tripping them, then they need to be cracking down equally hard on divers.

I agree, and sympathise with that problem because it is something that Australia encounters in many of its matches. Australia is a physical team that is true, but it takes more than a tap on the shins or a brushing of shoulders to foul a man. These melodramatic queens that dive off the slightest provocation are sending this great game into disrepute. I wonder how many dives we are going to see from those Princesses on the Italian team in their next match against Australia?

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Originally posted by tempoman When you've been raised your whole life with the sport being called soccer, it is not a big deal. I think people get too upset when its called soccer. They don't mean to disrespect the game in anyway. To cry about how the game is called is irrelevant, and focus should be on how its played.

The soccer / football argument is idiotic. Australia is very multicultural country and everyone here from every different nationality calls the game Soccer. We've already got three sports which enjoy more poppularity in Australia than soccer that already claim the name 'Football' (AFL, Rugby League, Rugby Union) so really this name debate is a non issue.

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Originally posted by Groundhog Boy I think you (and others) have hammered that point enough by now. It's not changing. You live here how much of the year? You know what football is in this country. It's been called that since before the World Cup started. If you'd like somehow get the NFL to change what its sport is called, then we'll all call it football. Until then, it's soccer in the US (and in some other countries, too), so people in this country know what sport you're referring to. Seriously, this bitching about the name of the sport is about one of the most trivial arguments I've heard regarding the US and the World Cup. You're not calling it the right thing either, as any version of "football" necessitates an adjective to say what kind Here's a quick segment from the Wikipedia article on "The History of American Football" that may clear things up. Source If anything, Rugby should get to be called "football" since it was the first using the word to have codified rules. -Edited for source link

+1 i love you

well said

wow Groundhog, I actually agree with you on things . Nice posts, you and Member, I'm with you guys on this.

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i didnt see it but some US commentators were talking about how bruce arena walked off the field without shaking the hand of the ghana coach. if that happened he should've been fired on the spot and told to find his own way home. there's no room for a classless display like that in the world cup. i don't care how pissed you are about a call or not advancing, you still go and congratulate the other coach and wish him luck.

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Originally posted by jonze234 i didnt see it but some US commentators were talking about how bruce arena walked off the field without shaking the hand of the ghana coach. if that happened he should've been fired on the spot and told to find his own way home. there's no room for a classless display like that in the world cup. i don't care how pissed you are about a call or not advancing, you still go and congratulate the other coach and wish him luck.

Wynalda chewed him out today on ESPN radio. And I mean chewed him out. Absolutely hilarious

Link (scroll down, and listen to audio if you have insider): http://soccernet.espn.go.com/team?id=660&cc=5901

I dont have insider but I really want to hear this