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Originally posted by PETRAN Ok so who is better a pianist, a dj, a super-star football player, a scientist or spider-man?

An artist. Ie some pianists, some djs, some super-star football player, some scientists, or spider-man because I've been told he's a cool photographer.

I dont see how its even arguable that instrumentalists\artists are equal to DJ's. I think I explained my position in my earlier post coming from a large instrumental background in viola, percussion, guitar, bass, piano and a few other tricks of the trade. I've been an instrumentalist for years now, and I've been DJ'ing about 2.

In those 2 years, I've earned 2 residencies and countless gigs. Now of course anyone who's serious on this entire website knows that you dont get gigs because you have great tracks and mixing abilities...you get booked because of connections, which brings me to the my true point.

ANYONE CAN FUCKING DJ! In fact, its really quite disgusting. I was just cleaning house a bit, and came up with about 30 local DJ mixes....ALL OF THEM suck, not by opinion, but by honestly awful mixing and awful tracks. Sometimes a line has to be drawn at what is shit and what is somewhat decent...

So yes, anyone can DJ, however practically none can DJ well or DJ MUSICALLY. These are the DJ's who with the proper connections really go places in my opinion. To be honest, I have made it where im at today from connections and not much more. I'm certainly not terrible and definitley not fantastic either...but case in point

1. A DJ is an individual who picks records and mixes them (beatmatched, fades, cuts or what have you) live to an audience

2. DJ'ing abilities take far less time to achieve than playing a classical instrument or even something like guitar.

HOWEVER, to DJ musically and to DJ well, takes lots of time and hardwork spent in music and knowledge of how music works so a DJ can play records musically and well to whatever situation in whatever crowd just as it takes an instrumentalist years to master there instrument.

Anyone can beatmatch, few will be true DJ's.

you know who you are

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Originally posted by Beethoven my best friend is a good DJ. he said, to be a good DJ, he should mix well and has a good track selection. a DJ should ACT! What he really means is learn how to smile and use body language to communicate with the crowd.

I'm going to go out on limb and say your DJ friend is a shitty DJ

Haven't been following the thread but,

What about turntablists? (or are we talking strictly mixing?)
Thats an extension of the basic mixing skill

Surely its like playing the drums (where its mostly rhythm and coordination rather than melody)

disregard if this isnt relevant here

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Originally posted by d-miurge An artist. Ie some pianists, some djs, some super-star football player, some scientists, or spider-man because I've been told he's a cool photographer.

Agreed!Oh by the way are you the last atlant?If you are then i have to tell you that your tracks are very atmospheric and edgy. Keep-up the good work mate!



+Spidey would make an amazing aerial photographer!


Also i have some quite amazing similar thread-subjetcs in mind. Tell me which one you prefer and i'll start it ASAP!

Physicists vs. Bicycle-Riders

Painters vs. Hair-Dressers

Food-consumers vs. Cookers

Porn-Stars vs Porn-Producers

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Originally posted by Beethoven Well. the truth is learning DJ is FAR MORE EASY than piano. get it??? good.

wrong, theres more to djing than just beatmatching....but technically, theres plenty of DJs out there who have the ability to mix very complex sets and take it all to a different tier. Richie Hawtin, James Zabiela, Apparat, BT, Dave Clarke and Matthew Dear just to name a few.

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Originally posted by Danny Ocean wrong, theres more to djing than just beatmatching....but technically, theres plenty of DJs out there who have the ability to mix very complex sets and take it all to a different tier. Richie Hawtin, James Zabiela, Apparat, BT, Dave Clarke and Matthew Dear just to name a few.

Surely you mean BT's live performances? As a DJ he's quite poor.

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Originally posted by D-res I'm going to go out on limb and say your DJ friend is a shitty DJ

First I'm going to say that ur comment is a shit.

do u know how tiesto, avb, atb, fatboy slim and any other popular DJ can be voted by the peoples? because they have the ability to mix well, GREAT TRACK SELECTION and ACT.

the ability to mix well, great track selection and producing is VERY IMPORTANT. besides this, there is one thing that u will never think about. He should Act!

Act? yes. now, do you like a DJ who ACT LIKE AN ASSHOLE? do u like when his face is seriously MISERABLE all the time? do u like when his face contain HATRED WHEN HE LOOK AT YOU? that time, you will think that in his mind said "I'm a GREAT DJ, this guy is really annoy me, get away from me! fuck you!!!"

DO YOU LIKE HIM??? DO YOU WANT TO VOTE HIM???

if u watch avb, tiesto, and other great DJ. they always enjoy their music, smile and communicates with the crowd. people love that. that why people are entertained by them, they VOTE them.

dont forget, learning CLUB DJ is far more easy than playing Piano. Your mom, your dad and your girfriend can learn how to beatmatch approximately in 2-4 weeks. In 3 - 6 months u can play in the club well. A few different between ur mix compared with any popular DJ. In piano, learning in 3 - 6 months is like learning a junior school material. U have to mastered Piano approximately in 7-10 years!

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Originally posted by Beethoven Act? yes. now, do you like a DJ who ACT LIKE AN ASSHOLE? do u like when his face is seriously MISERABLE all the time? do u like when his face contain HATRED WHEN HE LOOK AT YOU? that time, you will think that in his mind said "I'm a GREAT DJ, this guy is really annoy me, get away from me! fuck you!!!" DO YOU LIKE HIM??? DO YOU WANT TO VOTE HIM???

I'm guessing you've never seen PvD.

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Originally posted by Raveaddict19 I dont see how its even arguable that instrumentalists\artists are equal to DJ's. I think I explained my position in my earlier post coming from a large instrumental background in viola, percussion, guitar, bass, piano and a few other tricks of the trade. I've been an instrumentalist for years now, and I've been DJ'ing about 2. In those 2 years, I've earned 2 residencies and countless gigs. Now of course anyone who's serious on this entire website knows that you dont get gigs because you have great tracks and mixing abilities...you get booked because of connections, which brings me to the my true point. ANYONE CAN FUCKING DJ! In fact, its really quite disgusting. I was just cleaning house a bit, and came up with about 30 local DJ mixes....ALL OF THEM suck, not by opinion, but by honestly awful mixing and awful tracks. Sometimes a line has to be drawn at what is shit and what is somewhat decent... So yes, anyone can DJ, however practically none can DJ well or DJ MUSICALLY. These are the DJ's who with the proper connections really go places in my opinion. To be honest, I have made it where im at today from connections and not much more. I'm certainly not terrible and definitley not fantastic either...but case in point 1. A DJ is an individual who picks records and mixes them (beatmatched, fades, cuts or what have you) live to an audience 2. DJ'ing abilities take far less time to achieve than playing a classical instrument or even something like guitar. HOWEVER, to DJ musically and to DJ well, takes lots of time and hardwork spent in music and knowledge of how music works so a DJ can play records musically and well to whatever situation in whatever crowd just as it takes an instrumentalist years to master there instrument. Anyone can beatmatch, few will be true DJ's. you know who you are

+1 Everything was well said.

Musicians can not be compared to DJ's, if you WANT to separate the two. But someone can, obviously, be both....and I do agree that perfecting a musical instrument is harder than perfecting mixing.

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Originally posted by Beethoven First I'm going to say that ur comment is a shit. do u know how tiesto, avb, atb, fatboy slim and any other popular DJ can be voted by the peoples? because they have the ability to mix well, GREAT TRACK SELECTION and ACT. the ability to mix well, great track selection and producing is VERY IMPORTANT. besides this, there is one thing that u will never think about. He should Act! Act? yes. now, do you like a DJ who ACT LIKE AN ASSHOLE? do u like when his face is seriously MISERABLE all the time? do u like when his face contain HATRED WHEN HE LOOK AT YOU? that time, you will think that in his mind said "I'm a GREAT DJ, this guy is really annoy me, get away from me! fuck you!!!" DO YOU LIKE HIM??? DO YOU WANT TO VOTE HIM??? if u watch avb, tiesto, and other great DJ. they always enjoy their music, smile and communicates with the crowd. people love that. that why people are entertained by them, they VOTE them. dont forget, learning CLUB DJ is far more easy than playing Piano. Your mom, your dad and your girfriend can learn how to beatmatch approximately in 2-4 weeks. In 3 - 6 months u can play in the club well. A few different between ur mix compared with any popular DJ. In piano, learning in 3 - 6 months is like learning a junior school material. U have to mastered Piano approximately in 7-10 years!

why the fuck are you even looking at the dj?

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