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Originally posted by gehzumteufel You really miss the point of it all.

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If he doesn't care, then why is he even posting in this thread? Oh that's right, so he can cheap-shot minority groups by calling them vulgar names. Sounds educated to me.

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Originally posted by teknotexan ...Ask yourself this: Would you did a disgusting, lonely, painful death for a fancy folktale? /end tangent

Ever heard of Heaven's Gate?

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I think a lot of us "care" because NONheterosexuals are human too and when we diminish the rights of one minority, we diminish our entire society. It was exactly how the rise and fall of the Nazi regime played out. Of course there are other important issues such as the war, the economy, etc., but that doesn't preclude anyone from determining what their own personal priorities are - only a dictator dictates priorities - and most of us can handle several priorities in one day, based on our own freedom of choices.

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Originally posted by selfEvolution I think a lot of us "care" because NONheterosexuals are human too and when we diminish the rights of one minority, we diminish our entire society. It was exactly how the rise and fall of the Nazi regime played out. Of course there are other important issues such as the war, the economy, etc., but that doesn't preclude anyone from determining what their own personal priorities are - only a dictator dictates priorities - and most of us can handle several priorities in one day, based on our own freedom of choices.

This.

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by Nostalgic I still can't fucking fathom how passionate you people are over homos marrying. I mean are you all ******s trying to get married yourselves? Who cares if they can marry or not, what does it matter to you if you're not a fagg0t, and please, no more of the "OH NOES TEH FEDERAL GOVMENT TRYIN TO IMPEDE ON TEH RIGHTS" crybaby shit. Seriously. There are more important issues today like the economy, Iran, Iraqi war then a whether a bunch of pink-skirt wearing fruitcakes can marry or not.

i still can't fucking fathom how you lack the self control to get over this thread even though you clearly don't give a shit about anything being discussed in it. oh wait, you sound like a little kid who just discovered the internet so it actually makes perfect sense.

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Here's a note from my good friend, Senator Art Torres, another "straight" man supporting NONheterosexual rights, and who is currently Chairman of the California Democratic Party. This reminds me of the previous quote I had posted on the matter from Thomas Jefferson:

"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others." - Thomas Jefferson (Highly consulted by John Adams and Benjamin Franklin when framing our Constitution).

How is gay marriage between two consenting adults an act that is directly injurious to any other? The fact is, it isn't. The Constitution and the State Courts (who determined NONheterosexual marriage is legitimate and lawful)were designed to protect minorities from the emotionally-challenged hate and backlash of the majority (read a few posts back for evidence of such emotionalized and crude hatred). So if someone wants to prioritize the "economy" and the "war" consider how both are the *REAL* destroyers of too many heterosexual marriages - Everything is related in one way or another, and certainly decent human rights for all consenting adults are related to all aspects of a decent society. Bush, Rove and their cronies cannot continue to lie that they are "fighting for freedom in Iraq" when it isn't being allowed to every adult here in America. Homophobia is part of the battle cry of Nazis and Muslim Extremists - does any fair-minded "American" really want to join them in their battle cry?


"I've seen marriages slowly crushed by mounting personal debt. I've seen marriages strained by a health care system that doesn't take care of the sick. I've seen marriages put to the test by the effects of repeated deployment of a spouse to Iraq. But I've never seen a single marriage suffer because someone else had the same rights as the married couple. In fact, I don't know anyone who has."
- Art Torres

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A state ballot measure to ban gay marriage in California is gaining momentum, with polls showing almost even odds of it passing after trailing by double digits a month ago.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122...gle_wsj_gadgv1&

This one's going to be a tough one. Be sure to vote people!

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And your face is handicapped btw!!

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I've been meaning to thank In2Muzik and many others in this forum who have made sane and rational comments.

In addition to the EQUAL tax benefits that NONheterosexuals would get by marrying, there are other considerations: If NONheterosexuals are only allowed civil union/domestic partnership, if one of the parties is unable or incapacitated to make a medical decision, the family of the partner have more legal rights than a domestic partner. Only MARRIAGE allows the SPOUSE to trump the family. For NONheterosexuals, many times the family is NOT supportive. Thus, they need the same rights that heterosexual married couples have, in order for their spouse to make major decisions.

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Does anyone know what percentage of votes is needed for a California constitutional amendment to pass? Is it a majority plus one, or is it two-thirds of the vote?

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Originally posted by bas Dual exhaust tips on dual exhaust = QUAD EXHAUST = 300 gain in horsepower. Duh

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Originally posted by bas Undies with a dickhole aren't good for guys. Your balls can get caught in them. That's why I prefer to go over the gate instead of through the fence.

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Originally posted by Nostalgic I still can't fucking fathom how passionate you people are over homos marrying. I mean are you all ******s trying to get married yourselves? Who cares if they can marry or not, what does it matter to you if you're not a fagg0t, and please, no more of the "OH NOES TEH FEDERAL GOVMENT TRYIN TO IMPEDE ON TEH RIGHTS" crybaby shit. Seriously. There are more important issues today like the economy, Iran, Iraqi war then a whether a bunch of pink-skirt wearing fruitcakes can marry or not.

oh wow. so many wrongs with your post. but one thing is right, what does gay marriage have to do with you? NOTHING! Thats exactly my point. That is why you should be voting NO on 8. Let the gay's choose on their own if they want to marry or not.

btw, i am gay and i do not wear pink-skirts, skirts, or even eat fruitcakes.