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Originally posted by DJ Damerchi er went something more like this tard. 1. God chooses his VIP peeps 2. sends some prophecies that theyll get the orgasimically spiritual land back 3. God fullfills prophecy. The rest is all nonsense dont question the mysterious ways the almighty works and seriously, y did it have to be the holy land of all places...imagine israel today of similar size being a patch on australia or someshit.

Religion is stupid. Thats why.

Shit I just declared it my holy land. I like this uh one rock there and its on this beach... some kid tossed it at a piece of drift wood though so... I have to invade!!!

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby UNs biggest failure.

if you want to look at it that way it's actually YOUR country's biggest failure (after losing the American colonies of course) for giving up Palestine to the UN for partition.

why don't you place any blame on the Nazis for leaving a half million Jews in Europe with no home to go back to after their miserable failed genocide experiment and world domination follies?

it seems to me your useless adolecent cynicism and complete ignorance of history coupled with your sick, elitist attitude towards any human life other than your own in every attempt to forego rationale thats not either "cool" or of necessity...do you ever think for a second maybe YOU are what's wrong with the world? you should.

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Originally posted by Q5echo if you want to look at it that way it's actually YOUR country's biggest failure (after losing the American colonies of course) for giving up Palestine to the UN for partition. why don't you place any blame on the Nazis for leaving a half million Jews in Europe with no home to go back to after their miserable failed genocide experiment and world domination follies? it seems to me your useless adolecent cynicism and complete ignorance of history coupled with your sick, elitist attitude towards any human life other than your own in every attempt to forego rationale thats not either "cool" or of necessity...do you ever think for a second maybe YOU are what's wrong with the world? you should.

Did I not acknowledge that? I thought I did.

The vast amounts of anti-semitism that still affected the populations of France and the UK, even after the horrors of the holocaust were revealed, along with a strong Zionist movement in France headed by Jews that felt it was their holy duty to establish a Jewish state in Palestine that made the creation of Israel possible.

Granted the UK did fight for keeping the land of Palestine as one of their colonies, but this was more a desperate attempt at the now rapidly falling empire than anything to do with having or not having a Jewish state. Zionist Jews already in Palestine were waging guerilla warfare against the UK presence and instead of looking bad fighting the "poor, mistreated" jews they handed the land to the UN and let them deal with it.

Of course the backing of the US was obviously the keystone to their continued survival, but originally it was a fairly small group of zionist Jews in the US that put a lot of backing behind it.

Really the creation of Israel can be seen as a sick marriage between anti-Semitic groups/governments in Europe and the displaced and now radicalized zionist movement that formed before World War II and then gained popular support after it.

Blaming the Nazis, that is true. If it weren't for them there would be no Israel. The zionist movements in Europe would have stayed on the fringe and more than likely Palestine would be a mixed state or in some other better situation than it is in now.

Hitler was the best thing to happen to the zionist movement. Stalin helped, but Hitler really was the one to bring the radical zionist movement around to the mainstream Jewish communities.

My views are not adolescent, they are blunt. These two groups will NEVER stop fighting. They have a blind and unforgiving faith that God has chosen them for this land. This is particularly sad of the Palestinian movement which was much more Red before the 1980s when Radical Islam picked up the cause and it moved away from a nationalistic/secular movement and towards the current religious movement. If they had stayed a nationalistic movement I think they would receive a lot more credence from the world community.

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Originally posted by epsilon1 http://sderot.aish.com/SderotPetitions/15Seconds.php 900,000 people under missile attacks. Some of you refuse to understand that IDF's intention is to hit Hamas terorrists and facilities, while Hamas is deliberatly launching missiles at civillians population.

and you seem to be very clueless about the situation inside Gaza and the shit they have been going through because of your governments actions.
Do you really believe at the end of this illegal war the people in Gaza will just forget all of this?you think those children who lost their home will grow up to love their neighbour Israel?THINK AGAIN.

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i agree its unfortunate that palestinian citizens are killed, but its inevitable. If you tell me, that when IDF makes phone calls to the houses (that are used as Qassam storages) asking them to evacuate perior to the attack is crude and unhuman then i dont know what to say..

Stop trying to make IDF look like the ultimate saviours because it wont work.If they really cared about any of those people they didnt have to go to this war in the first place.

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The "organization" called Hamas is nothing less than a terorrist group.

I got news for you,they aint going anywhere after all this.Bombs arent going to solve your problems.

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Originally posted by PETRAN Those Israeli bastards probably haven't heard that there are laws (even) in war.

Those assholes dont follow any international laws since they know the US will always come and save their sorry asses.

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Originally posted by Krypton Great piece of disgusting Zionist propaganda...

...and explain how this truth is 'propaganda'?

Even you should be able to figure it out even in the leftist world...

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer and you seem to be very clueless about the situation inside Gaza and the shit they have been going through because of your governments actions. Do you really believe at the end of this illegal war the people in Gaza will just forget all of this?you think those children who lost their home will grow up to love their neighbour Israel?THINK AGAIN.

Yea rocket attacks...great fuckin' solution...bravo...

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Stop trying to make IDF look like the ultimate saviours because it wont work.If they really cared about any of those people they didnt have to go to this war in the first place.

Religion aside, if I had thousands of random, unguided rockets flying over my border at my civilians, I'd be marching over the border too.
Here's your word of the day - HITNATKOOT

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I got news for you,they aint going anywhere after all this.Bombs arent going to solve your problems.

They aren't going for the civilians like Hamas is, wake up!

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Like I said, you guys ain't seen nothing yet. You have no idea of what Israel is capable of right now. Israel has a very strong army commander, and an even stronger secretary of defense. Its technology is light years ahead of any country in the Middle East. If Hezbollah opens fire from the north on Israel, then the IDF will completely dismantle the organization this time around, and may even go after the country that's ultimately behind all this mess - Iran.
So if you don't want to see thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people in Lebanon and Iran die I suggest you pressure Hamas to SURRENDER right now.

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Originally posted by CHRles Like I said, you guys ain't seen nothing yet. You have no idea of what the US is capable of right now. The US has a very strong army commander, and an even stronger secretary of defense. Its technology is light years ahead of any country in the world. If Iraq opens fire from the north on US forces, then the US will completely dismantle the organization this time around

OK re-read that again, now go back to 2003, now look at 2008.

Technology does not win wars. It can help, but it doesn't mean a win.

Some good pics.

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/20...l_and_gaza.html

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really good pics

#7-everyone in that pic is actually a Hamas militant

#15-he does not look too happy lol-I wonder what he's gonna do next in life, study interior design perhaps?

#20-and that's where my luck finally caught up with me, and my massive meth operation blewup