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| quote: | Originally posted by boris_the_bear
BUT you go further. you want everyone to glorify and praise that sacred sexual preference of yours. But IT IS NOT a normal state and SHOULD NOT be artificially spread like some sort of upgrade/advantage for a human being. but I DO CARE for the children who are born normal (cause being straight IS a normal state of a human being) and ARTIFICIALLY deformed by their gay "parents" in the course of being brought up (it is almost inevitable when a kid grows up with two gay dads, for christ's sake!!).
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1. I would imagine that *most* homosexuals do not want to "glorify" their sexual preference. They simply want to be accepted as equal and not a "deformed" human being. They want to be granted the same rights and courtesies as anyone else. They want to be treated fairly and not be judged based on their sexual preference. That is not "glorifying" anything.
2. Homosexuality is not something that is always learned. In fact, I would wager that it is a very very small population of the community that is gay because they were somehow influenced to be gay. If you think about it logically, with all the negative attention that gay people get, it's likely that many gay people would rather not be gay for the sake of "saving face". A lot of people who have attractions to the same sex have grown up with straight parents, have had normal influences in their lives just like the rest of us.
With all of that being said, having gay parents does not mean you will be gay. If you use that logic, why are there gay people to begin with? Obviously their parents were straight.
3. If you can accept that number 2 is true, why wouldn't you want to have kids who would otherwise be in the system, (where they are likely to be unloved,) have the opportunity to be with people who would genuinely care about them? Do you think it is better to have someone feel unwanted and rejected their entire lives, be outcasts, and be herded through a cold system than to let 2 gay men or women take them in and offer them a home?
| quote: | Originally posted by boris_the_bear
I'm against fag couples adopting children. Is anyone an active supporter of the aforementioned? Why do you not object when you have the chance? |
I am a supporter. It is better to give a child a home, a family, and love regardless of the sexual orientation of the adopters than to leave them in the system their entire lives.
| quote: | Originally posted by ownymcown
personally I am against legalizing same sex marriages. my tax dollars should not go to give tax incentives for people marrying other people of the same sex.
in fact, i would rather have no one get any tax breaks or any other such similar benefits from the government at all than both homosexuals and heterosexuals getting the benefits.
let's just have the government represent both as civil unions (with no subsidies from the government) and leave it to the churches to call it marriage.
as far as homos adopting kids, i think one would have to think in the best interests of the children. not all kids would benefit from having gay parents, so sexuality should be one of the factors they consider (like stability, income, criminal record, etc). |
I am not sure I understand what you're getting at RE: tax incentives, but whatever. As for the "one would have to think in the best interests of the children. not all kids would benefit from having gay parents" comment, 
How do you propose it is determined whether a child would "benefit" from a same sex marriage vs. a heterosexual marriage? That doesn't even make sense. If a child has a gay couple interested in adopting them, and somehow it is determined that they wouldn't "benefit" from a same sex marriage, then what? If there aren't any heterosexual couples interested, do you just leave them in the system? Please refer to my point #3 above.
| quote: | Originally posted by echosystm
I really don't think it is ideal for a child to be brought up by a single parent, let alone in a same sex marriage. |
Reality is, life is not "ideal". Regardless, why wouldn't it be "ideal" to have 2 men or women as your parents? What is the benefit of one over the other?
| quote: | Originally posted by weymouth
My statement was more "Children of homosexual parents may have some sort of longing to understand issues from the perspective of the sex that is absent in the family." |
I think this is a pretty valid point however, please refer to my point #3.
More children are put into the system then they come out. Why would you want to prevent children from having the opportunity to be in a loving home? More people adopting means less in the system, which overall, is a better thing for society and probably has a far greater impact on the child than the absence of one sex.
| quote: | Originally posted by punjabi
I'm baffled by how many of you are getting upset at people who are against gay couples "having" kids. It's a travesty. How do you explain to a 5 year-old why he has 2 dads? Seriously...give me an exact quote of what YOU would say if you were in that situation. Any child raised with 2 gay parents will be horrendously fucked up. |
Your post is a travesty.
"Well son/daughter, just like some people are black skinned, and some people are white skinned, or some people believe in Jesus and some don't, there are some boys who like boys, and some girls who like girls. Everyone is different and it's ok to be different! Because most of the time boys like girls or girls like boys, some people might tell you that it's not normal or right if you don't, but that isn't true. It just means that they don't understand others who aren't like them."
| quote: | Originally posted by weymouth
On March 10, 2006, Catholic Charities of Boston quit providing adoption services when Massachusetts anti-discrimination laws forced them to allow married same-sex couples to adopt, which has been prohibited by church doctrine.
Swedish Pastor Ake Green was sentenced to jail in June of 2004 for one month having been found guilty of offending homosexuals in a sermon under Sweden’s law against incitement.
In April of 2004 it became illegal to publicly express disapproval of homosexual behavior in Canada under an amendment to the hate propaganda laws.
source: http://www.heritage.org/Research/Fa...sequencesMD.cfm |
That isn't infringing on peoples rights, that's enforcing peoples rights. Every person has the right to be treated equally, fairly and be able to live their lives without harm both physically, and socially. These situations are just forcing people to stop being so ignorant and not infringe on the rights of gays and straights alike.
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