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Originally posted by malek so it's easier for the consummers to get free plastic bags than explicitly paying for them, its easier than hauling big bags before shopping... right?

Huh?
There is no cost to providing preferred parking for handicapped customers. I'm not sure what you're getting at because they are not comparable situations.

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Originally posted by Skipper if you're the one grocery store who doesn't offer handicapped parking, then you lose handicapped customers. You're the asshole that doesn't offer preferred parking. I'm not a socialist by any means, but it's not as if you give anything up so that 80 year old can hobble a 50 feet less to the store, so why not? Plain and simple, it's easier for you to walk to the store than it is for someone 3 times your age to.

considering its a law to provide handicap parking I don't see that as a problem.

The expecting mothers and environment friendly vehicle parking is what pisses me off....those people should have no problem walking from anywhere in the parking lot....if they do...then shop online for your groceries...hell even most people that use handicap spots don't actually need them.

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Originally posted by Skipper if you're the one grocery store who doesn't offer handicapped parking, then you lose handicapped customers. You're the asshole that doesn't offer preferred parking. I'm not a socialist by any means, but it's not as if you give anything up so that 80 year old can hobble a 50 feet less to the store, so why not? Plain and simple, it's easier for you to walk to the store than it is for someone 3 times your age to.

oh don't get me wrong. I don't have a problem with the handicapped parking at all. I don't care to walk the extra few feet. I was just stating that realistically it makes no difference weather you park in handicap or not since you will be walking around for a quite a while anyway

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Originally posted by Skipper Huh? There is no cost to providing preferred parking for handicapped customers. I'm not sure what you're getting at because they are not comparable situations.

Well the cost is implied, like those bags.

You must've noticed that those parking spaces are much larger, using space that could be used by more customers, land is not free, and it’s taxed annually.

It needs extra paint and metal panels to mark them. Police men and / or security guards need to keep an eye on them, that's not free. People getting tickets, contesting them, going to courts, wasting their time, that’s not free.

Finally, the millions and millions of extra drops of oil needed to get just a bit farther for the millions and millions of cars/trips for every reserved parking spot across your city/province/country aren't free either.

Yes I'm stretching it, but that's how I feel when I'm being told that suddenly there's no more place in the landfills for those plastic bags, when there's absolutely no place like Canada for open spaces, and the feeling is aggravated when convenient alternatives do exist to the plastic bag like the biodegradable ones.

Customers are being denied the convenience of those bags, the same type of convenience a handicapped person expects when rolling in a parking.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced The expecting mothers and environment friendly vehicle parking is what pisses me off....

I parked in 'expectant mothers'/'mothers with child' spaces lots of times. I never hesitate to when I don't want to get soaked by pouring rain and snow, or when it's dead. There is absolutely no law anywhere against parking there if you don't fit the sign's profile. You can not get towed or ticketed (evil eyes though). They can't on grounds of sexual discrimination. It's courtesy though, so I am courteous when I feel it's appropriate.

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But reusable bags are unhealthy... they become riddled with bacteria, mould and sometimes fungus. Sure you can wash them, but people are lazy, I don't wanna walk around a grocery store filled with people carrying their bacteria-infested cloth shopping bags... That being said. I don't use bags, I only buy what I can carry in the 2 arms I got Or I bring friends.

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Originally posted by Abercrombie I parked in 'expectant mothers'/'mothers with child' spaces lots of times. I never hesitate to when I don't want to get soaked by pouring rain and snow, or when it's dead. There is absolutely no law anywhere against parking there if you don't fit the sign's profile. You can not get towed or ticketed (evil eyes though). They can't on grounds of sexual discrimination. It's courtesy though, so I am courteous when I feel it's appropriate.

I agree here... its different if its a bus and you get up for a pregnant lady or a senior as i always do. But parking and walking is a whole different matter especially when you will be walking inside the store as well. Handicapped parking is also out of control and i am speaking as somebody who had a handicapped sibling. While it was always nice to be able to park a bit closer it was not much of a burden to have to walk a bit further EXCEPT on those odd days when it snowed where we would then offload him at the front of the store and park it afterward.

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Originally posted by Spam But reusable bags are unhealthy... they become riddled with bacteria, mould and sometimes fungus. Sure you can wash them, but people are lazy, I don't wanna walk around a grocery store filled with people carrying their bacteria-infested cloth shopping bags... That being said. I don't use bags, I only buy what I can carry in the 2 arms I got Or I bring friends.

Not to mention when they wear out they probably take 100 times longer to biodegrade. Those bags are thicker plastic and synthetic cloth. Real good for the environment

today, i bought some stuff at rexall....and for declining the bag, they credited me a whole 5 cent!!! that'll give me 1/100 of a beer sip at DEMF this wkend woohoooo

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Originally posted by devnull today, i bought some stuff at rexall....and for declining the bag, they credited me a whole 5 cent!!! that'll give me 1/100 of a beer sip at DEMF this wkend woohoooo

Now if they are going to do anything at all this is how it should be done... and also not forced by a government to do so.

Congrats to Rexall. Too bad on June 1 in toronto they will be forced to charge.

BTW you forgot to account for the exchange rate so it will be .08/100 of a beer LOL

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Originally posted by devnull today, i bought some stuff at rexall....and for declining the bag, they credited me a whole 5 cent!!! that'll give me 1/100 of a beer sip at DEMF this wkend woohoooo