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Originally posted by rudypoochris Um... lol... I am not upset about buying my ticket... I would of still bought it if it cost twice as much. I actually am going to be buying two more for friends most likely as the date gets closer. Just because someone wishes the headliners were somewhere in the same league as last years doesn't mean they aren't still down to go. As I have reiterated ad nauseaum this is one of the best parties of the year and I am delighted to go. The lineup just isn't as good as last years by any stretch of the imagination. Read what I wrote before replying or it is pretty hard to take you seriously.

it's pretty hard to take you seriously after that amazing sandwich analogy. look i don't care how much you're willing to pay or how many people you're bringing with you, your comments are still unconstructive whining. and i say this very topically to every whiner on this thread because i don't keep track of all of you and what you say. it doesn't take a genius to figure out the trance line up isn't as "dj-mag big" as last year, who are you trying to convince? i just think it's absolutely hilarious how misplaced your standards are for what constitutes a fun party.

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Originally posted by rudypoochris Um... lol... I am not upset about buying my ticket... I would of still bought it if it cost twice as much. I actually am going to be buying two more for friends most likely as the date gets closer. Just because someone wishes the headliners were somewhere in the same league as last years doesn't mean they aren't still down to go. As I have reiterated ad nauseaum this is one of the best parties of the year and I am delighted to go. The lineup just isn't as good as last years by any stretch of the imagination. Read what I wrote before replying or it is pretty hard to take you seriously. Maybe they were maybe they weren't, end result is the same. Still don't care about any of the process of selecting a lineup just like the other 99% of the crowd... they are just there for the music and the event and better headliners would of been nice, thats all. This is going to be a great party, it ALWAYS is thanks to Skills and whoever else does the AP. Like I have said before the lineup isn't that great, it isn't in the same league as last years, that isn't going to change unless they bring out some big mystery headliner. It doesn't need defense or explanation about how hard it is to plan a rave. It is just a statement about the lineup, nothing more. If you really are going to get that defense about what I have said about the lineup that is silly, you should hear what others are saying.

You mean the drugs and boooze.

I wonder if you are forced to use ticketmaster tickets at the venue ... and you have to go pick that ticket up day of or something (as what's usually oen of the side rooms will be where everyoen picks upt here ticket this year. Inside the building in the left side room...you'll enter it from the outside...)....and you are paying for a TM service fee or something.

I dunno what's up with that. Maybe someone with Skills can explain or something.

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Originally posted by 3tlk Dave, However, when you mention 'don't know how to book'. I am a tad surprised that is coming from you. Now I have never met you, I have seen you standing on stage plenty of times but that makes me knowing you as well as I know the DJs. I have read PLENTY of threads from you criticizing the opening DJ for headliners. Now everything is just speculation at this point, but now that we have seen the talent I have a hard time imagining the progression from one DJ to another.

You are merging the club world with a one-off production. Different rules simply apply....not by choice, but it's just how it is. You should never expect proper progression at an event like this. Sometimes you get lucky and the progression is good in the rooms throughout the night, but 95% of the time it's pretty janky.

When people sayin someone doesn't know how to book...I am seeing it as them saying the organizers don't have a clue what type of acts they should book for such an event. Like those complaining abotu trance being in the side room. Good, solid complaint if you are a trance fan but saying it's becuase they don't know how to book is lame. Again, if they had a solid trance headliner they could have booked, I bet they would've indeed had the trance in the main room. That's just a guess by me though.

The main room, at least, has to be based around acts that have some name recognition to the more mass audience. I know some of you will say that tickets will sell no matter who is in the lineup....eh, you run a business and go by that assumption. Especially in this economy.

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Originally posted by drEamer as paying customers, dont we have a right to bitch and moan about shit? LOL

yup and more so if the talent doesnt correspond to the ticket price.

I dont know the financial aspect, but last years lineup would lead you to believe the talent expenses were MUCH higher than this year. so if less was spent on talent this year, you would assume that entry prices should be lower than last year.

imagine if the names that had been "leaked" were the top acts and D5,GA,Eddie, and fischerspooner etc were NOT on the lineup and instead more local openers you could see for free on a friday or saturday night...

Plenty people bought their $47 and $57 tickets based on the acts they had known about, or just the idea of the after party.


Suggestion. Next year start with planning for a massive(like ETD popsicle) then build the parade around it. If the city got draconian and said no parade, no floats, no music, you still have a kick ass massive and people will go to it, or was Pop this year a bust(no pun intended) attendance wise...

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Originally posted by junkproject You mean the drugs and boooze.

YEAH!!!!
HAHA, i will have fun either way!
That doesnt mean i am not sad that the Trance AND the House has been replaced with Experimental/Fusion/Hardcore/Big Beat/Electro, Minimal....
It would suchk to have Pop happen again with some trance and some other stuff mixed. So i understand. Its just too bad....
Everyone needs to be less bitchy! Its going to be SO MUCH FUN!!!!! Even if we all have to crowd into the side room.... When they see all of us in the side room and not many people in the main room they will understand the importance of having a good lineup for next year.
I am super stoked to see Andy FINALLY! I wish Alex Morph could have come! I am happy cuz every trance DJ playing will be a new experience for me! I am fans of all of them so it will kick ass....

*sigh*

It's like talking to a wall sometimes.

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Suggestion. Next year start with planning for a massive(like ETD popsicle) then build the parade around it. If the city got draconian and said no parade, no floats, no music, you still have a kick ass massive and people will go to it, or was Pop this year a bust(no pun intended) attendance wise...

That's not a working option, you're missing a lot of other needed variables

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well u know that there will be an event next year, why not start workong on it on October 5th? just an idea

@bigperf you have to be kidding! Although to you it might seem that skills and spundae are the organizers of all things SF Love Parade, you would be surprise to know that it's not correct. San francisco's LOVE FEST started well before there was an Official After Party. Also there are so many other awesome production companies that put up their own money to have a float with good DJ's. It would be stupid and dumb for the organizers of the parade to disregard all others promoters and start building a free parade based on two companies who god forbid should ever go out of business for whatever reason..

ANYWAY THE LINE UP REMAINS AS SOLID AS EVER!!

I would much rather have all those trance DJ's in one room, so please either pick main room or side room but don't split half in main room and the rest in a side room..

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Originally posted by drEamer well u know that there will be an event next year, why not start workong on it on October 5th? just an idea

probably because the cost of having this years parade are not yet cleared. Can't start planning something if you don't know how deep you will be in running/cleaning/security/permit costs.

Hopefully since this year they will be charging $10 to enter the festival grounds, there will be enough money for the organizer to start planning by mid October!

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Originally posted by drEamer well u know that there will be an event next year, why not start workong on it on October 5th? just an idea

No we do not know there will be an event next year

Trust me any possible solution you present, either we tried or it's not possible

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