Originally posted by owien
i remove all parameters and settings pre made so that its as straight and untoched as i can then go about creating the sound i'm after. i write it all with one clear line in paino roll play on a loop and co create a new sound.
and for the last time i'm not being a dick just because people dont seem to get why creating a song from a blank page is to hard or pointless.
i have built up my own sound banks over time and learned how to get what i want from my set up. through time and hard work
Yeah, but do you do this because it sounds good or so that you can jerk off to how awesome you are for your own mutual exclusivity while you make shit tracks... as opposed to leaving the sound design for someone who specializes it so that you can focus on creating a song?
There's nothing wrong with creating your own sounds from scratch, but to discount others for using created sounds in unique ways by saying it isn't original is asinine.
Sep-11-2009 18:59
MrJiveBoJingles
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.
quote:
Originally posted by owien
i have built up my own sound banks over time and learned how to get what i want from my set up. through time and hard work
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Do you really synthesize *all* your own percussion samples? That's pretty cool, if so. Can you post some of the kicks, snares, hi hats, etc. you've made? I can make kicks on my own but they're pretty plain sine / triangle wave stuff, nothing stellar. They hit pretty hard, though:
I have never made a *good* hi hat or snare from scratch. Wish I could find out how.
I think it's awesome when people can make absolutely all their own sounds, but you shouldn't be a jerk about it like you have been in this thread. You can still make a good song if you use samples from other people.
i made a thread that includes a tutorial on how to make your own hi hats
Sep-11-2009 19:01
Zild
Ten City
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156
quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
I dont know, sometimes things are just so logical that you just have to try and explain it.
He says that if you arent making your own samples your music will be unoriginal and generic.. even though the artists he has listed as original can be proven do use plenty of samples, it still doesnt go through.
Yes but a long time ago someone should have come along and said most people are ok with using samples, and one person isn't. /thread locked
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I get where the guy is coming from. If I were capable, I would probably synthesize all my own sounds as well, at least when it comes to dance music. Half the fun of making this music for me is "conquering" a new sound by overcoming the puzzle of how to make it and shape it exactly the way I want. But I know others feel differently so I am not going to call them hacks or unoriginal if they would rather do otherwise.
Sep-11-2009 19:03
owien
maverick
Registered: Jan 2009
Location: the south
quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
Yeah, but do you do this because it sounds good or so that you can jerk off to how awesome you are for your own mutual exclusivity while you make shit tracks... as opposed to leaving the sound design for someone who specializes it so that you can focus on creating a song?
There's nothing wrong with creating your own sounds from scratch, but to discount others for using created sounds in unique ways by saying it isn't original is asinine.
hey just because you cant co create anything new from scratch then poor you just go and wank off to the shit you make
Sep-11-2009 19:07
Subtle
Subreme tranceaddict
Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Urban Shakedown
quote:
Originally posted by owien
i have built up my own sound banks over time and learned how to get what i want from my set up. through time and hard work
We all respect and have no problem with that, but you are saying that this is the only way to make "your own" sound. If you think thats how your favorite artists do it, then you need to do more research.
i tried synthesizing my own kicks and also tried many drum synth presets and none come some what close to the hardness of a VEC Bassdrum. If someone knows a synth thats capable of replicating this, then tell me!
Sep-11-2009 19:09
Zild
Ten City
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156
quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
I get where the guy is coming from. If I were capable, I would probably synthesize all my own sounds as well, at least when it comes to dance music. Half the fun of making this music for me is "conquering" a new sound by overcoming the puzzle of how to make it and shape it exactly the way I want. But I know others feel differently so I am not going to call them hacks or unoriginal if they would rather do otherwise.
I make all of my own sounds, but I still think this guy is being unreasonable.
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Originally posted by owien
hey just because you cant co create anything new from scratch then poor you just go and wank off to the shit you make
Listen, I totally respect you for making all of your sounds from scratch. I just think it's ridiculous for you to think that you aren't creating something new by using something someone has ever touched ever.
Sep-11-2009 19:12
MrJiveBoJingles
Supreme tranceaddict
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.
VEC kicks have lots of noise and distortion which makes them sound louder. Most of their samples are just ripped from other people's records anyway and then processed, right?
Personally I find a lot of VEC percs to be harsh on my ears, but that crunchy noisy sound seems to be what's in for trance these days.
Sep-11-2009 19:12
Zild
Ten City
Registered: Jun 2004
Location: San Antonio, US : TXTA #156
quote:
Originally posted by orTofønChiLd
i tried synthesizing my own kicks and also tried many drum synth presets and none come some what close to the hardness of a VEC Bassdrum. If someone knows a synth thats capable of replicating this, then tell me!
Jomox Xbase
Jomox Mbase
Vermona DRM
Roland TR909
etc...
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