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Originally posted by JohnSmith tiesto14... every post, i think you can't possibly be any more naive, and you keep amazing me.

naiave about what./.....u guys are all full of shit that beleive in your socialogy and psycologu proffessors rhetoric on how the the U.S. is run and how the war is handled...grow your own fucking opinions based on experiences and truths not on some proffesor that is such a fucking coward in his own life that he has to preach to children on how the U.S. is wrong or bad or what hidden ajendas they have...its all crap that liberals chant about all the time..,..makes me wanna puke

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Bring back 1994 NYC clubbing nights, cus the sh*t today is filled with junk parties and DJs that play sh*t House.....Zabiela, Sander, or Howells and all the rest suck and couldnt throw a night like it was in the early 90s in NYC!!!...Screw Twilo - give me Limelight circa 1993!!!

a very good point that seems to escape many people.

thanks cyberia.

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Originally posted by cyberia Damn,this thread has got much to read anyway,saw some interesting stuff in here,so according to some of you it's right to kill some people just because it's war and in war it is a normal fact that some mistakes are made,WHAT THE FUCK????What if every one thought liked that,the world would even be a more crazy place to live on.If you think like that the taliban had every right to crash those planes into the WTC's because they are in war with the US ,so they may kill innocent people,oops mistake.....

ummm, who said this, i never got this feeling from anyone

are yo sure you're not taking that out of context???

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Originally posted by tiesto14 naiave about what./.....u guys are all full of shit that beleive in your socialogy and psycologu proffessors rhetoric on how the the U.S. is run and how the war is handled...grow your own fucking opinions based on experiences and truths not on some proffesor that is such a fucking coward in his own life that he has to preach to children on how the U.S. is wrong or bad or what hidden ajendas they have...its all crap that liberals chant about all the time..,..makes me wanna puke

dude.. i'm so done talking to you.
every post is profanity, bad spelling, and bad grammar.
it's like arguing astrophysics with a gradeschooler.

i won't even bother to say how wrong and silly your points are, because half the time i can't even understand what you are saying.

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Originally posted by JohnSmith dude.. i'm so done talking to you. every post is profanity, bad spelling, and bad grammar. it's like arguing astrophysics with a gradeschooler. i won't even bother to say how wrong and silly your points are, because half the time i can't even understand what you are saying.

LOL...sorry i type fast when i get into debates and sometimes dont recheck my spelling...i can spell but i try and type too fast...i will do better...LOL

and u know what i said..u just have no response until u go to school and ask your professors...LOL

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Bring back 1994 NYC clubbing nights, cus the sh*t today is filled with junk parties and DJs that play sh*t House.....Zabiela, Sander, or Howells and all the rest suck and couldnt throw a night like it was in the early 90s in NYC!!!...Screw Twilo - give me Limelight circa 1993!!!

its really a shell shock to me how there can be so much dissent towards america's actions since 9/11. i mean, the first time i heard about it was that stupid french book saying 9/11 was staged and didnt really happen.

the reason we went into afghanistan was because al'queda was there. If you haven't realized, the taliban are hella pissed off w/ osama ... because if he didn't do anything, they would still be in control of the country.

as far as approval rating and getting elected again, sure.. thats what all politicians want. but that has to say something about the people. if they didnt approve about the policies, then the policies would change. the fact of the matter is, when you attack the policies... then you're actually attacking the american people's opinion. thats why some of us are defending in this issue.

iunno. just kind of dumb that people can't see the whole picture.

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Originally posted by bluejay ummm, who said this, i never got this feeling from anyone are yo sure you're not taking that out of context???

nope just read the first page of this thread

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Als er zo ene sta, heb ik twee woorden...Engelbert Humperdinck, ik rij altij me humperdinck daar wijk ik ni van af

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Originally posted by cyberia nope just read the first page of this thread

hmmm, ok, well i didn't really think anyone was saying what you're saying that harshly, but whatever.

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just kind of dumb that people can't see the whole picture.

so, true...

anyway this 'war' that US is fighting will only lead to more hatred against them,more and more groups will gather together to get some vengeance ,so it became totally useless

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Als er zo ene sta, heb ik twee woorden...Engelbert Humperdinck, ik rij altij me humperdinck daar wijk ik ni van af

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Originally posted by tiesto14 naiave about what./.....u guys are all full of shit that beleive in your socialogy and psycologu proffessors rhetoric on how the the U.S. is run and how the war is handled...grow your own fucking opinions based on experiences and truths not on some proffesor that is such a fucking coward in his own life that he has to preach to children on how the U.S. is wrong or bad or what hidden ajendas they have...its all crap that liberals chant about all the time..,..makes me wanna puke

just curious, where do you get your "truth" from? Local newspapers, National Television? Are you part of the White House? Work for the Pentagon?

You had people involved in 9/11. You have a right to be angry and sad. But right now you are just using that as an excuse to argue with pure emotion, void of logic or rationale. You keep talking about truth, and facts. Back it up, and maybe we'll take you more seriously.

Everything I say is my opinion and my opinion only. I don't claim it as the "truth" or the absolute "fact". It is formed by things I see and things I read. I take in everything, taking into account they may be exaggerated and falsified. So don't be so arrogant to think your opinion is the absolute truth, because there is no way in hell it can be.

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Who said anything about UFO's? I am sure as hell i didn't.. Keep riding that slippery slope!

Conspiracy Theorist? Maybe... But i prefer to think of it as a critical mind who doesn't believe every thing he is told he should believe.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 RIGHT...however we have exact knowledge WHERE in Afghanistan...if we had exact knowledge where in other regions we would take action there aswell.....

EXACT?? yes that is why they bomb weddings... BTW they have knowledge that "terroist" camps exist in Sudan, Pakistan, Malaysia, and various other locations.

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u cant be serious...u think we are bombing Afghanistan for the opium?...wow what a conspiracy theorist you are...whats next we bomb Columbia for their cocaine?>...LOL get real and stop beleiving in UFOs

This is a whole nother can o' worms to open. But my point that you can't simply believe what the guvernment tells you has been taken:

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i mean get real people ... i am not denying that the government does not tell us everything but u guys are really reaching

And yes i do think the drug industry in Afganistan has something to do with why the states are so concerned with thier country. And no they don't have to bomb Cloumbia for the Coke. They already got the fingers in that cookie jar.

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WHY Iraq?...well because Hussein is a mad man with biological and chemical weapons that will eventually go crazy and kill Americans...thats why....

It is common knowledge that Suddam and the USA were very close bed fellows until American interest differed with Iraqi.



Finally I would like to make a suggestion to anyone with an open mind. Someone who is interested in understanding world issues from different perspectives. Not just what is fed to them through the Western Media Machine.

Read (or at least look at the pretty graphs and pictures) in:

Manufacturing Consent
by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky
Pantheon Books, 1988

You don't have to believe what is said by any means. But in a world of differing opinion it is importnat to understand BOTH sides in order to formulate your OWN opinion.