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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby I've always found that women tend to be far more competitive amongst themselves than men are... Most men seem to be able to actually work together on a pretty consistent basis, even if they have differences personally with someone they tend to ignore it and actually work towards the goal at hand, where as women in the same situation I have noticed almost ALWAYS let their personal bias and feelings play a dominate role in their group interaction. Its fucking annoying.

i actually agree with you on this and there is a theory about at least one factor that contributes to this. basically boys are socialized to engage in physical competition - take american football as an example. it is also considered quite normal for boys to physically fight each other. generally, after they duke it out, things are fine. girls are not typically permitted to engage in such physical contact. yes, girls have organized sports, but there is arguably far less physical contact in girls' sports. thus, women don't have a socially acceptable, physical way of resolving conflict. this leads to emotional warfare - manipulation, gossip, exclusion, etc. i think it makes girls much more competitive with each other than would be necessary if they had more socially acceptable, physical means of resolving conflict when they are young.

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philippe - In MEXICO says: ur the most clever pothead i know philippe - In MEXICO says: u deserve a fucking medal

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Originally posted by prolikewhoa back to gender and sexuality... i'm curious since there are so many dudes on this forum - do you think bisexuality for men exists? i think it's interesting that it's not socially acceptable for boys to be affectionate with each other, even in a platonic way, whereas girls can hold hands, sit in each other's laps, and even kiss each other without raising any eyebrows. what makes boys' sexuality more rigid and girls' sexuality more fluid? why are straight girls encouraged to make out with other girls (because it's hot, i know) but straight guys generally couldn't get away with it?

Of course it exists. I don't see how it can't not exist, because you can just ask a bisexual man if he's attracted to both sexes.

Since we're on the topic of bisexuals, I'm pretty mad that there are fake bisexual women out there. Um... yeah right.

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Originally posted by shaw That's a bit generous.

Well, she’s probably just a bit young and hasn’t taken this topic as seriously in the past as most of us nerds and political theorist grads im willing to give the benefit of the doubt for now. this old man is mellowing, yee-har!

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that, and i've been out of school for 3 years so i'm a little rusty not reading the stuff every day like i used to. anyway, thanks for not thinking i'm a complete idiot. i'll take what i can get around here.

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philippe - In MEXICO says: ur the most clever pothead i know philippe - In MEXICO says: u deserve a fucking medal

It would help your argument greatly if you posted a pic of your tits.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN It would help your argument greatly if you posted a pic of your tits.

I really have to agree with PKC on this one.

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Originally posted by nefardec Right, but the gender question is about values. And as you said, you find this behavior annoying with women, whereas men are typically rewarded or admired for the same behavior.

What? Men don't express the same behavior, at least not nearly as much.

There have been plenty of times where I do not personally like a person but I work with them anyways because it serves myself to do it and not interacting with them would only be detrimental to myself.

Most women tend to go more along the lines of "I wont work with them because I don't like them" and leave it at that. They don't put a bit of effort into considering the follow through. It is an entirely different behavior. Women react on a much more emotional level than men. I am not saying that women can not be logical, that's stupid, women are just as logical as men, but women tend to place emotion before logic, and have to work through the emotional aspects of dealing with a situation before they react logically to it.

This isn't entirely a bad thing either, this is why women tend to be the better parent, they react emotionally to their child's needs, where as men tend to react in a more cold and logical way that can seem off putting to children. Women over all tend to just be better at comforting people as well. They come off as non-aggressive for the most part and show a greater quality of sympathy. These are good traits, its just that sometimes, just like men lacking the ability to usually react emotionally first, isn't the best order of events for dealing with a situation.

Hey Moral, not sure how regularly you scroll to the bottom of the page, but I wanted to alert you as to a PM I sent you.

/best contribution to this thread.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN It would help your argument greatly if you posted a pic of your tits.

i guess my argument is gonna wallow in obscurity

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby What? Men don't express the same behavior, at least not nearly as much.

it's the same double standard you see if men fight it's somehow about honor, but if women fight it's automatically "OMGCATFIGHT!!!", something to be laughed at.

Nah, men fighting is just as dumb and laughable.

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Originally posted by Vector A Nah, men fighting is just as dumb and laughable.

that's your opinion. let's talk about narratives and values though. in other words, how would a movie exec look at it?