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Originally posted by nefardec i'm mostly talking about marketing and pushing of certain drug products.

You know they have a cream to grow your eyelashes out now!

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby You know they have a cream to grow your eyelashes out now!

i actually use lash serum, and it works

Anyone that wants to understand what went down and how, this is a good place to start:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meltdown/view/

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Originally posted by nefardec I didn't say that. I certainly think anyone who would buy a house without having the right financial situation is an idiot and partly to blame. Greed and consumerism exists at every level, and I think it's a problem, but also human nature, and I think there ought to be checks against human nature when it interferes with the larger functioning of society... that's pretty basic. But it's not the borrower's job approve the loans, which should be one of the checks. In the case of our recent financial crisis, these were not checked, because the risk was passed on and ultimately the only people who were at risk were the people who weren't at the top. Sure those institutions collapsed, but not before a small group of people made off with a great deal of the money.

Agreed. those making the loans (and rating the securities etc) share more responsibility than individual borrowers. I think there were plenty of people “at the top” that ended up shafted. Just check lehman bros.

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Originally posted by nefardec better said - who needs fast food,

poor people.

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Originally posted by nefardec brand name drugs

where do you think generic drugs come from?

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Originally posted by nefardec that doctors are retained to promote occasionally for conditions that companies hire people to invent

like gender identity crisis?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN like gender identity crisis?

you're so predictable.

in the interests of not allowing this thread to be derailed - anyone who is curious about the above remarks made by this troll who wants a history of the diagnosis of gender identity disorder can feel free to contact me for elaboration.

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Originally posted by nefardec you're so predictable. in the interests of not allowing this thread to be derailed - anyone who is curious about the above remarks made by this troll who wants a history of the diagnosis of gender identity disorder can feel free to contact me for elaboration.

Not trolling at all, simply pointing out that there are many medical or psychological issues that other people may dispute the existence of, but that doesn’t make them any LESS real to those who suffer them. it’s ironic that you would defend your own experiences so strongly, while dismissing others’ experiences as some kind of conspiracy between medical professionals and big pharma, and then attack me for “dismissing” your own issues.

I think you should stick with the worthless philosophy, you suck at real life discussion.

edited: replaced "more" with "less".

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Not trolling at all, simply pointing out that there are many medical or psychological issues that other people may dispute the existence of, but that doesn’t make them any more real to those who suffer them. it’s ironic that you would defend your own experiences so strongly, while dismissing others’ experiences as some kind of conspiracy between medical professionals and big pharma, and then attack me for “dismissing” your own issues. I think you should stick with the worthless philosophy, you suck at real life discussion.

nope, not trolling!

btw why was it exactly that you put the word 'dismissing' in quotations?

it makes absolutely no difference to me whether gender identity disorder is considered a medical disorder or not. in fact i'd rather it not be considered a disorder, because i think that comes from a outmoded way of thinking of gender, similarly to how homosexuality used to be considered a disorder in the DSM. the only reason it's useful to have it in there is because it makes it potentially insurable, but that never really happens anyway, and certainly hasn't for me.

OH NEFARDEC U TROLL !

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Originally posted by nefardec btw why was it exactly that you put the word 'dismissing' in quotations?

meaning I don’t really dismiss the very real gender disorders that people suffer from, I was merely making a point that it’s easy to dismiss something like that when you’re not the one dealing with it.

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Originally posted by nefardec it makes absolutely no difference to me whether gender identity disorder is considered a medical disorder or not. in fact i'd rather it not be considered a disorder, because i think that comes from a outmoded way of thinking of gender, similarly to how homosexuality used to be considered a disorder in the DSM. the only reason it's useful to have it in there is because it makes it potentially insurable, but that never really happens anyway, and certainly hasn't for me.

anything that makes someone wanna cut off their wang should be classified as a disorder

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN anything that makes someone wanna cut off their wang should be classified as a disorder

funny that a lot of cultures essentially do that as a rite of passage. i see it as body modification. btw sometime when you don't plan on eating, google 'penis bifurcation'.

also, not all transgender people want sexual reassignment surgery.

BIG BLACK COCKZ IMO.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker Oh, preese, so sorree for intorrerance fwum esss russer. He maka fun of you because you tarking in racial stereotype. I aporogize for heem. He not know how behave. Preeze accept aporogee. Ching chang chow yun fat, Mr. Roboto.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I think you should stick with the worthless philosophy, you suck at real life discussion.

Hey, when she decided to become a women she really meant it, that means getting rid of the ability to form a coherent argument or debate rationally.