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Halcyon+On+On
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Apr-17-2013 16:19
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Apr-17-2013 16:30
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Halcyon+On+On
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| quote: | Originally posted by srussell0018
If crime statistics show a specific trend towards a certain race, what's wrong with a quick pat down for those people?
Is their time so much more valuable than ours? Huh? Reverse racism imo. |
It's a contentious point, to be sure. I don't buy into the school of thought that pits itself against any and all law enforcement practices that obviously produce results; When Stop-and-frisk was given free rein, thousands of illegal firearms were seized. That is good. But it is approaching the stark issue from the wrong side, and has the unintended consequence and agency of introducing a targeted group of people -historically disenfranchised by the criminal justice system in the first place- to the criminal justice system, thereby perpetuating the cycle of criminality.
It is, unarguably, institutionalized prejudice, and it's one of the foremost factors that spurs people to commit crimes in the first place.
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Apr-17-2013 16:34
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srussell0018
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| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
It is, unarguably, institutionalized prejudice, and it's one of the foremost factors that spurs people to commit crimes in the first place. |
Well first, that's not unarguable in the slightest. You think that racial prejudice from police drives black people to commit crimes in the first place? Money drives them to commit crimes. Money, and pictures of them with money on twitter and facebook. What crimes do they commit? Selling drugs, murder, etc. What's the end gain of all of these crimes? Money.
Showing that this policy resulted in thousands of illegal firearms being seized is reason enough to praise the practice, not denounce it. If you don't want to be stopped and frisked, stop committing crime.
The rap industry also has a part to do in it. It has glorified crime for the past 30 years. White kids grow up wanting to be the next professional athlete, actor, etc. Black kids grow up wanting to be the next Wacka Flacka Flame, whose message is essentially "commit crime, and you'll get money."
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Apr-17-2013 16:37
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PivotTechno
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Apr-17-2013 16:43
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