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tiesto14
Let The Music Play



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Palladium New York City

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
ALSO.....wut a way to end 2002


clash between prog and trance....


HONESTLY i love progressive...but i cant forget trance cuz trance is beautiful and has always been there for me.





um ISN'T Porgressive TRANCE????


why is everyone acting like progressive is NOT trance?...IT IS TRANCE...just a sub-genre of trance...same way epic aka uplifting, tech, or hard are all forms of TRANCE..

So someone please tell e when PROGRESSIVE became it's OWN genre???

because as far as i know it never did...unless HARD,EPIC,TECH,GOA etc etc ALL have now become their OWN genres.

IT IS progessive TRANCE


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Bring back 1994 NYC clubbing nights, cus the sh*t today is filled with junk parties and DJs that play sh*t House.....Zabiela, Sander, or Howells and all the rest suck and couldnt throw a night like it was in the early 90s in NYC!!!...Screw Twilo - give me Limelight circa 1993!!!

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tiesto14
Let The Music Play



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Palladium New York City

quote:
Originally posted by Bedrock
I think StarFag should be removed of his moderator status

he gets far too emotional



no chance f0x is one of the BEST mods we have IMO.


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Bring back 1994 NYC clubbing nights, cus the sh*t today is filled with junk parties and DJs that play sh*t House.....Zabiela, Sander, or Howells and all the rest suck and couldnt throw a night like it was in the early 90s in NYC!!!...Screw Twilo - give me Limelight circa 1993!!!

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tiesto14
Let The Music Play



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Palladium New York City

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper is boring, and yes some trance is boring... Both genres are stuck with their fair share of cookie-cutter producers attempting to relive the glory of past successes.





AGAIN...when did Prog become it's OWN genre?...


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escee
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Perth, Australia

Tiesto14, Starfox gets much to emotional banning bedrock for an anti pvd thread? weak.

and

How can you say progressive is a sub genre of trance? It sounds totally different to trance. I think progressive is lumped together with trance because people are afraid of stepping out into a new genre. Just because tiesto has start spinning more progressive stuff, doesnt turn progressive into trance.

Old Post Dec-05-2002 06:39  Australia
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tiesto14
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Palladium New York City

quote:
Originally posted by escee

How can you say progressive is a sub genre of trance? It sounds totally different to trance. I think progressive is lumped together with trance because people are afraid of stepping out into a new genre. Just because tiesto has start spinning more progressive stuff, doesnt turn progressive into trance.



i never once mentioned anything about Tiesto making prog a subgenre of trance...not once...not sure where u pulled that from.

but then if Prog is not a subgenre of trance then neither can Goa/Psy, Acid, Hard, Tech or any of the other subgenres....

For the past 7 years that i have been listening to trance, progressive was always a form of TRANCE......


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Old Post Dec-05-2002 06:48  Bahamas
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arturob
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Miami

quote:
Originally posted by escee
Tiesto14, Starfox gets much to emotional banning bedrock for an anti pvd thread? weak.
.


that was not my reason. If I would have banned him for that, then MANY TAs would`ve been gone also don`t you think? plz think a little bit more before you post. Generalizing is not good.

and btw, if you don`t know what your friend did on the AU forum, check it out, which I know you did since you both are friends ;p


and now,

no more flames or the 5 days suspension will be enforced.



many greetings,

f0x


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Pio
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Registered: Jun 2002
Location: NYC-New Haven- San Juan-Amsterdam / PRTA #1

this thread should seriously be closed. it's an open invitation for flaming and nothing constructive is being discussed.

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Bedrock
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Perth

Tiesto14:

the 14 stands for you're age I'm guessing coz u need some more schooling.

there's progressive trance and progressive house, both are entirely different genres and have entirely different roots and beginnings.

Prog Trance takes its roots from Trance & Psy Trance, the majority of today's trance is progressive since its using different sounds etc to that of the mid-nineties. Progressive house takes its roots from epic and acid house. Producers such as James Holden & Sasha produce progressive house.

recognise.


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PatMcGroin
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: here? there?

quote:
Originally posted by Starfox




many greetings,

f0x



HAHAHAHAAHAHAH ARTURO I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!

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trancedfarmer
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Seattle, Washington

So much hate... oh wellz!

personally i find some people to be overly critical of music... why hate the artist for trying to produce intriguing music... Besides, Paul van Dyk has some really good stuff out there... I just dont understand why someone would post a thread simply aiming to degrade someone and their work--- oh wellz...

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speedracer_mec
DeepHouse & Progressive



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Greece, where the good progressive comes from.

hehe lets allllll take a deepbreath...


Now lets rethink all this.....we all knew this topic (prog vs. trance) were to explode before years end....but lets discuss this peacefully....


i mean i seen alot of TAs get converted to "prog elitist"

hell i myself am sooo deep into prog right now...but Not letting go of the real trance(quality)....in fact i was in a state of prog..early this fall..but now in winters time im into the trance mood.



BASICALLY its this: If ur dissin trance and u hail progressive..THEN U LACK AN OPENMIND!...u tell people who listen to trance..oh yeah u lack openmindness..ur missin prog..I get all giggly listenin to sasha.etc

I LISTEN TO SASHa...holden...pappa....the whole krew(except digweed)..
and yet i still have the mind to pump up tunes like
Natural Born Grooves - Kickback (TDR Remix).mp3
cosmic gate-truth(fc remix)

im not saying im better than anyone else but please dont come into this thread and take sides and flame without knowing wtf.

btw swamper..im not bashin neither...
dont forget ur roots....

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breakdown
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Registered: Jan 2001
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lol
commercialism... whoever said that obviously doesn't know what it means.. it sure as hell doesn't mean releasing to one of the least expected places on the world... ONLY


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