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Do you believe there is a U.S. government cover-up surrounding 9/11? (culorut vs PKC)
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shaolin_Z
Hei Hu Quan



Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
here's a great photo i hadn't seen before, which illustrates why the towers fell as they did.


You're right, the charges are clearly visible .


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Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion



Registered: Jul 2002
Location:

quote:
Originally posted by shaolin_Z
You're right, the charges are clearly visible .


haha, youre such a cvnt!

now, please at least tell me that the supersrtucture lends itself to a "pancaking" given that picture? Just look at it!


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shaolin_Z
Hei Hu Quan



Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
haha, youre such a cvnt!

now, please at least tell me that the supersrtucture lends itself to a "pancaking" given that picture? Just look at it!

Haha .


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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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colonelcrisp
Isn't Batshit Crazy



Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Ottawa

hey lot, sorry i missed the fun the past few days, im still in london uk on vacay, but i have a funny storry for you. while i was being a dorky tourist one day, i was walking in front of the houses of parliment and there was a troofer protest happening across the street in front of the statue of churchill. funny enough, there were about 20 protesters, and a couple hundred people shouting wankers as they walked pased them. I had to stop and laugh a bit.


This country is absolutely fantastic, although, expensive as hell. But i must go, my buddy is cooking me bangers and mash and im about to down a couple more pints of bitters. Cheers mates.

ill be back in the soviet states of cannukistan on teh 25th.


ciao


-the colonel


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Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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donnybrasco
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: L.A.

quote:
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hey lot, sorry i missed the fun the past few days, im still in london uk on vacay, but i have a funny storry for you. while i was being a dorky tourist one day, i was walking in front of the houses of parliment and there was a troofer protest happening across the street in front of the statue of churchill. funny enough, there were about 20 protesters, and a couple hundred people shouting wankers as they walked pased them. I had to stop and laugh a bit...


lol, excellent.

I'm just surprised that there are as many as 20!


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culorut
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Registered: Jan 2007
Location: right here

How the 9/11 Commission Got it Wrong

If Shenon's book was your introduction to the simple fact that the 9/11 Commission failed in its mandate on several levels, then you are probably unaware that serious criticism of the 9/11 Commission was entered into the Congressional Record of the 109th Congress. This criticism was the result of a Congressional Briefing conducted by former Congressional Representative, Cynthia McKinney of Georgia. (McKinney is currently seeking the Presidential nomination for the Green Party of the United States.)

The briefing was held on July 22nd, 2005, subsequently broadcast by C-SPAN, and studiously ignored by the corporate press. A comprehensive collation of the briefing has not been made available online, but thanks to the magic of YouTube, I have chopped the most pertinent testimonies from that day into neat 10 minute segments that are easily digestible for the busy internet surfer. You may have seen some of the footage from the briefing in the documentary, "Press for Truth", where Lorie Van Auken talked about her husband's fate on 9/11. Beyond that, not much of this footage has been circulating on the net.

So, if you are new to 9/11 Truth, or 9/11 skepticism, or you just have some questions, this is a great start. This briefing does not present much speculation or theory, but does break down the Commission on its bureaucratic failings, and lists a host of anomalies that will send you researching for days if this is all new to you. (This briefing does not discuss controlled demolition theories at all, it wasn't until physicist Steven Jones came on the scene in 2006 that CD "exploded" into the massive topic for 9/11 skeptics that is currently is. There was a lot of research already published online, and some in books, but it took a PhD to kick it over the top.)

The YouTube series is in 25 parts, and begins with McKinney's opening statement;

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infinity HiGH
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: west side T.O

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/FBI_d...ssion_0228.html

More proof that we never got the full story on what really happened that day.

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jerZ07002
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Registered: Dec 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/FBI_d...ssion_0228.html

More proof that we never got the full story on what really happened that day.


that source is hardly proof! some of you people are too easily persuaded by opinions (which are almost always based on suspect evidenc) and stories from questionable "news" sources. furthermore, while i didn't read the entire post, i did read the part about one of the hijackers having tickets to go elsewhere. what exactly does that prove besides that he was covering his tracks?

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culorut
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ZERO : Europe for an Independent Inquiry into 9/11



On Tuesday 26th February, Europarlementarian Guilietto Chiesa invited his colleagues and the press to attend the screening and debate of the Italian-produced documentary named ‘ZERO, an investigation into the events of 9/11’. Object of the screening was to create political awareness of the faulty official investigation into the events by the 9/11 Commission.

Besides Mr Chiesa, the panel consisted of Japanese parlementarian Fujita, Dr David Ray Griffin, film distributor Tim Sparke & the director and producers of the film.

http://www.markdermul.be/911/zero.htm

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Q5echo
asymetrical scepticism



Registered: Feb 2004
Location: Dallas

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN


thats beautiful.

f**kin terrorists.

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pkcRAISTLIN
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Registered: Jul 2002
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no meeting involving Griffin is even remotely important.

and Fujita is a fucking moron:

quote:

‘I work for several Japanese NGO’s and one of those people showed me some videos and books. At first I couldn’t believe it. So I saw Loose Change and read Dr Griffin’s books.


even dylan avery admits his films are full of wrong information.

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And last year a good friend of mine who has a very high position at the German national bank told me about the put options that were placed on American Airlines and United Airlines.


which is a known fallacy, look at a post from occrider on the subject, possibly in this thread.

how are we meant to take idiots like this seriously?

griffin:

quote:

‘Well, one very important one is the alleged Barbara Olsen phone call. Ted Olsen at the time claimed he had been called by his wife twice on 9/11, thus establishing the fact that American Airlines 77 was in fact hijacked by men with Middle Eastern looks. First he claimed it was a cell phone call. Later he changed his story to seatback phone. But when a German journalist got Boeing to confirm that on this type of flight there were no seatback phones, Olsen changed his story back to call phone. Now, you might think ‘oh, so he got it right the first time’, but… At the Moussaoui trial an FBI-report showed that there was never any connection between Barbara Olsen and her husband. No cell phone calls were ever made from that flight (Dr Griffin gave three more examples, contradiction with regards to the whereabouts of General Meyers, the highest ranking military officer on 9/11, the timeline of Dick Cheney’s activities and the question about why the Pentagon was not evacuated when the Doomsday plane, shown on CNN, was actually in the air over Washington – ed. note)!


hahahahahahahahahaahahaha. yes, ted olsen is lying about speaking to his wife.

what we've got here is nothing new, just the same tired lies we hear over and over again.

quote:

(True to form, the Belgian media didn’t publish or broadcast any of this debate on this or the following day, even thought this debate took place inside the European Parliament – ed. note)


precisely. nobody cares.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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oh, and here is the evidence that griffin is just a fucking lying piece of shit.

the cell phone myth debunked

how someone so dishonest can fool so many of you idiotic turds is beyond me.


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