Debunking Popular Mechanics?: PM Book Alleges FAA Source For Statistical Data; FAA Concedes No Such Data Records Exist.
Beginning on page 22 of a Popular Mechanics 2006 book entitled Debunking 9/11 Myths, containing a forward comment by Republican presidential candidate John McCain, an attempt is made to clarify the role played by potential military aircraft intercepts during the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.
Citing unnamed sources, part of this section reads as follows:
When contacted by Popular Mechanics, spokesmen for NORAD and the FAA clarified their remarks by noting that scrambles were routine, but intercepts were not - especially over the continental United States.
However, according to a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Freedom of Information Act response dated March 3, 2008, the FAA concedes that records for the information alleged in part by Popular Mechanics' unnamed FAA source, do not exist.
Mar-17-2008 22:31
pkcRAISTLIN
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It never ceases to amaze me what you think is important in this debate while giving the truthers a completely free ride when it comes to the poor use of "evidence". How bout you spend your time looking at david griffin?
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Mar-17-2008 22:56
culorut
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What I posted has nothing to do with truthers, it merely shows that someone is making shit up and lying flat out to the public when being called out on their findings. My bet is placed on Popular Mechanics simply because they seem to be trying way too hard on proving to everyone that the official story is legit.
What amazes me is that you are still trying to convince yourself otherwise when very simple straight forward facts about 9/11 are presented right in front of your eyes but you continue to bicker like a 12 year old.
Mar-18-2008 00:18
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by culorut
What I posted has nothing to do with truthers, it merely shows that someone is making shit up and lying flat out to the public when being called out on their findings. My bet is placed on Popular Mechanics simply because they seem to be trying way too hard on proving to everyone that the official story is legit.
see, that's where you're wrong. just because the FAA don't keep official records as requested by an FOA application doesn't mean popular mechanics didn't speak to someone at the FAA that provided them with the information they published.
i cant tell you how many people come to my office daily because we dont keep records, i could however give you a rough estimate.
the problem is that (again) you're trying to manipulate what this new piece of "evidence" actually means.
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Originally posted by culorut
What amazes me is that you are still trying to convince yourself otherwise when very simple straight forward facts about 9/11 are presented right in front of your eyes but you continue to bicker like a 12 year old.
hahaha. "facts". these facts you present are almost always fallacious so i dont really see the reason why i should take them seriously. your problem is you don't have any experience (vocationally or academically) in actual research (i have, in both).
i bicker like a 12yo because that's all the troof movement deserves. your latest post is a case in point. you pick out one particular issue and then tell us all what it really means, when in fact the more likely scenario is the one ive just described. but no, you're too scared of the boogieman to notice.
its much the same with the other "facts" that you present concerning demolitions or the truly retarded no-plane theories.
the troof movement are the only ones that think these retarded ideas are "facts" so i am in the (great) rational majority when i dismiss them.
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Mar-18-2008 01:06
culorut
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the troof movement are the only ones that think these retarded ideas are "facts" so i am in the (great) rational majority when i dismiss them.
You seriously have problems, go see a shrink freak.
Mar-18-2008 01:33
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by culorut
You seriously have problems, go see a shrink freak.
no, sorry. what i said was merely factual.
if these stupid ideas were being accepted by the community at large, where's your second investigation? where are the charges against the government? where is the international outrage?
get a clue.
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Mar-18-2008 02:18
Spike
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
no, sorry. what i said was merely factual.
if these stupid ideas were being accepted by the community at large, where's your second investigation? where are the charges against the government? where is the international outrage?
get a clue.
61%>39%
Har Har, you lose bitch
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Mar-18-2008 05:42
pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by Spike
61%>39%
Har Har, you lose bitch
yes, because tranceaddict internet polls are the pinnacle of representative opinion fuckhead.
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Mar-18-2008 08:23
Spike
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
yes, because tranceaddict internet polls are the pinnacle of representative opinion fuckhead.
your mom is the pinnacle of internet polls fuckhead lolloloneoneoneoneone11111!!!!1111 o,<
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Mar-18-2008 12:54
LazFX
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Originally posted by Spike
your mom is the pinnacle of internet polls fuckhead lolloloneoneoneoneone11111!!!!1111 o,<
Mar-18-2008 12:55
colonelcrisp
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: Ottawa
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Originally posted by Spike
your mom is the pinnacle of internet polls fuckhead lolloloneoneoneoneone11111!!!!1111 o,<
wow..... i mean WOW..... ^^this is the direct product of intelligent design theory being taught in schools.... it seems to have developed a form of post natal retardation.....
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?
Mar-18-2008 13:51
Spike
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Originally posted by colonelcrisp
wow..... i mean WOW..... ^^this is the direct product of intelligent design theory being taught in schools.... it seems to have developed a form of post natal retardation.....
im sorry i cant understand you, i dont speak spanish
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