yeah this place has gone down the hill the last year or two.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN I actually know what you mean. Also a lot of people contributing in even this thread (2008, which isn't even that old) are not around here anymore and they used to be avid posters.

I remember drinking tea in my first year of uni reading some threads on here. That's 6 years ago, and I can remember bits of the day surrounding the thread, etc.

I also enjoy looking at old posts by long since departed users (especially the really old MD forums) talking about events and stuff that happened when I was still in high school. I always find myself thinking about what they do now.

Things seemed so much more exciting back then. Never get excited about going out any more.

I miss playing Legend of Zelda on N64 till 2am then going to sleep listening to ATB. Dreaming of the Future. I miss the future.

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The perfect kick?

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On the topic of being embarassed at old posts I can't believe what an utter pathetic newbie I sounded like and that was only 2-3 years ago when I had like 5 years experience already.

Talking about "tiesto & ferry" having the best kicks and what not what a fucking joke. I think I'm realizing though when I came here a few years ago, even with those 5 years "experience" I actually didn't know a single g/damn thing about anything. In the last 3 years I've been a member here I've easily learned double what I did when I was fumbling alone with sounds by myself and not posting in forums.

A lot of people say this place is going to shit and its not what it use to be but its amazing what I've learned here because I honestly did not learn anything useful at all those first 5 years. I basically sat down and just made music but never really read fundamental rules like lowcutting bass and keeping channels low. I was actually so stupid at one point I'd make sure all my levels were at 0db because I never comprehended the volume of 2 sounds resulted in a higher overall sound. I'd see it in the master but I always thought it was the compressors/fxs doing it.
But coming to this forum I think its actually been harder unlearning all the bad habits I taught myself then to learn better more effective ones. I think I'm just gonna start telling people I have less experience than I really do because I did waste a large portion of those first 5 years not learning anything. I just never realized as a newbie that music was a complicated/technical process. Always thought you just mixed sounds and wallah. What a joke.

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Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox On the topic of being embarassed at old posts I can't believe what an utter pathetic newbie I sounded like and that was only 2-3 years ago when I had like 5 years experience already. Talking about "tiesto & ferry" having the best kicks and what not what a fucking joke. I think I'm realizing though when I came here a few years ago, even with those 5 years "experience" I actually didn't know a single g/damn thing about anything. In the last 3 years I've been a member here I've easily learned double what I did when I was fumbling alone with sounds by myself and not posting in forums. .

2 x 0 is is still 0

You are still quite the newbie.

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Thats true I'm working on it though instead of aimlessly working on another track today I've been trying to read the entire Dance Music Manual instead of just going to specific parts for reference when I need (and I don't even do that enough really). I'm learning some pretty need stuff too and then I'm gonna get the book Ralphie recommended. I'm also realizing although I had 4 years of piano lessons when I was 9-13 I really don't know shit about theory and think about time to address that issue too.
I'm getting sick of finding melodies by accident and although I have tools like improvisator to help I wanna learn how to sit down and play a melody w/out backtracking a thousand times to find keys that work. I can read and play music but I don't know shit about theory and thats jut a fact. I'm also thinking my 3 year stagnancy in production is more a sign that I lack technical know how rather than a sign to start finishing tracks again. I know I can finish a track but I honestly don't want to because I don't know how to make the sounds that appeal to me the most. And since I learned how to program from presets the majority of sounds I know how to make now sound just like presets. I tried changing my approach once before but I always wind up closing the books and opening FL. I may honestly just uninstall the shit for a few months so it forces me to focus on other things.

Man you always sound like you can't enjoy creating music unless your music sounds polished and professional and you're doing it in the most efficient, fun way possible. It just doesn't work like that. My workflow is garbage, my computer is outdated and absolutely horrible for producing (tracks sit at around 90-95 CPU usage without even being played in the DAW, and that's usually long before I finish the song), I have no monitors and a stock soundcard and I can't program my own sounds, but I still enjoy producing and refuse to let myself enjoy it less because my music doesn't sound like Andy Blueman's (yet)

Theory becomes almost instantly useful so just stop making excuses and start reading up on it if that's what you want to do. Stop spending time with your face in a book and open up FL and have some fucking fun for once. I used to worry all the time that my music would never sound anywhere near as good as the pros out there but I'm getting pretty close aside from a few technical issues I can't really iron out without proper equipment, and I only got to the point I am now because I quit worrying about things, as counter-productive as that sounds. I acknowledge and use criticism and I still read up on production techniques but I don't let it control what I do or how I do it because I'm enjoying myself too much to let it bother me. You should try doing the same, instead of taking time off because you're overwhelmed just make music for the fun of it instead of trying so hard all the time

I think you are just anxious. I used to no be able to turn my computer on for a few months a while back as I placed this pressure on myself to always have to do something incredible. Just set the time, set the task, and just work. Make schedules and deadlines. Divide creation from learning. Spend half on learning half on creating. Unless I suppose if you only have 2 hours or less then just create.

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as M4B says, if you do not have a workchart you will probably end working in circles, a never ending loop..